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Post  sentot on Wed May 27, 2009 2:21 pm

Hello all,
I have new carmona retusa tree. It is tropical tree.
But I am not sure about the style.
Any idea for my camona retusa style?
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Re: camona retusa style

Post  JimLewis on Wed May 27, 2009 8:27 pm

That's impressive . . . but I think I'd end up being afraid of it.

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Re: camona retusa style

Post  sentot on Wed May 27, 2009 9:02 pm

Thanks sir,
That's the problem.
As a beginner in bonsai, I am 'unsure of direction' fitting the tree with traditional bonsai style.
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Re: camona retusa style

Post  JimLewis on Wed May 27, 2009 9:17 pm

I don't know what to suggest. I can't imagine that you have any way of bending that trunk. But that large, even, bow shape, then the swoop inward and up seems impossible.

I believe these can be made into large cuttings, so if you wanted to cut this back closer to the pot, you probably would be able to root several lengths of that trunk. Or, an air layer is another possibility.

Someone else -- help!

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Re: camona retusa style

Post  Joe Hatfield on Thu May 28, 2009 3:04 am

I say.. cut it down and let it back bud.

OR

Try an air layer or 12 on it (air layering practice possibility)

Or

Trying some sort of Phoenix graft.

or

Wrap it around a large rock and plant it in deep soil to make a root over rock.


But sometimes its better to wait and let the ideas come to you. I have trees I am sort of stuck on myself and I'm ok with thinking on it for a few days, weeks, etc. I try just not to make a fast decision that might prove to upset me later. I think it looks very cool how it is maybe grow it out and show it at a modern arts exibit???!!! geek

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Re: camona retusa style

Post  sentot on Thu May 28, 2009 3:21 pm

Thank you very much Mr. Jim and Mr. Joe.
I will consider your suggestion, specially Mr. Joe last suggestion.
Because sometime I find "non standard" bonsai style in my local bonsai contest.
They say contemporer bonsai.

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"Carmona retusa" Style

Post  bonsaisr on Sat May 30, 2009 1:26 am

The correct name is Ehretia microphylla. In English it is called Fukien tea. You can probably Google up a lot of information under that name. Of course the growing conditions in Indonesia are quite different, but from my very limited experience & reading, I gather that it is rather temperamental. Is that a collected tree? I would experiment with cuttings or air-layers very slowly, one at a time. Also, if you want to shorten it into a less hysterical shape & get some back budding, do it very gradually.
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or....

Post  austinheitzman on Sat May 30, 2009 3:17 am

You seem to have few options to try. Let the tree go for a year, two, however many it takes. See what grows, and see if that inspires you- in other words, try and let the tree decide for you.

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Streblus?

Post  sentot on Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:40 am

Hello all,
Thanks for your suggestion.
But I am not sure about fukean tea.
I indonesia we say serut.
serut leaf

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fukean leaf

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or it is streblus?

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"Carmona retusa" Style

Post  bonsaisr on Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:46 pm

The pictures you showed are Fukien tea. It is sometimes spelled Fujian tea in modern Chinese transliteration. It is Ehretia microphylla. It is a very distinctive plant. No other plant grown for bonsai, that I know of, has those obovate leaves with the scallops on the end. Streblus is something entirely different, in another family.
I have a small Fukien tea myself. The weather here has been unusually cold, so it is sitting around being very uncooperative.
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"carmona retusa" style

Post  bonsaisr on Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:57 pm

Oops. Sorry, I didn't realize you had pictures of two different species. Yes, Serut is Streblus alba, from the mulberry (fig) family. It has nothing to do with Carmona. Your second picture is Fukien tea, Ehretia microphylla.
If your Serut is anything like its tropical Ficus relatives, you should be able to chop it up, as others suggested, but I would try it a little at a time, to make sure it works.
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