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Post  sunip Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:14 pm

Hi,
After a lot of wiring and pinching i show you the result for now.
I bought this tree in 2007 from a builder's merchant, at the time he was 140 cm. high.
This sawara is now 85 cm. and has still a way to go.
This sort needs constant pinching, also during winter
I hope you feel where i go with this one.
Sorry for the disturbing line behind the tree, i needed a second background plate for covering.
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regards, Sunip Wink

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Post  JimLewis Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:19 pm

Nicely done. You may, eventually, want to get rid of some of those very low branches???????
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Post  sunip Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:20 pm

Hi,
Here an other viewChamaecypharis Pisifera boulevard (baby blue) Img_1211
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Post  GerhardGerber Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:43 pm

Hi Sunip

I really like this tree! thumbs up

For me the whole canopy looks great, or at least the canopy as whole.
I would also tend to think you need to see more of the trunk at the base, but if I do a virtual in my mind (without some of the lower branches) it looses something.......

Still a great tree....

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Post  AlainK Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:08 pm

GerhardGerber wrote:
I would also tend to think you need to see more of the trunk at the base, but if I do a virtual in my mind (without some of the lower branches) it looses something.......

Still a great tree....

I totally agree with that.

And, Sunip, is that a larch that I can see in the background ?
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Post  Lukasz Czarnecki Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:24 pm

Beautiful tree Smile
I made a virtual for you - maybe will be useful Smile

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Post  GerhardGerber Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:41 pm

I made a virtual for you - maybe will be useful

That proves it for me.....still a nice tree, but not the same feeling as the original.

My apologies if this offends anybody, but this tree made me think of a joke....

Man goes in for an operation to have his manhood shortened.
In the theater the Doc asks a nurse how much she thinks needs to be removed.....
The nurse suggested "Can't we make his legs longer?"
clown

Pity you can't splice in a little more trunk at the base.....

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Post  sunip Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:45 pm

Hi Alaink,
Not a larch but a pine.
This one is a yamadori from 2008 who was very vigorous.
After a repot this spring he went down.
Not patient enough i am affraid.

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Post  sunip Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:38 pm

Hi All,
Thanks for your reply.
I am working with this material on a full and mature tree image.
A tree indeed with a dome shape, that is also why i chose this pot.
Such a tree has a very special atmosphere, but requires constant pinching and turning to the sun
to hold the green foliage near the trunk.
In a post a few days ago Pavel wrote that the Chamaecypharis pisifera will back-bud, a thing i was thinking impossible,
well i am very curious now if i can achieve this.
Gerhard that special feeling is what i aiming at
but there is a lot that disturbs the eye, branches are not always there where you want them.
So, some more growing, pinching and bending, let's see if i get somewhere in the coming years.
Lukasz, thanks for the virtual, this option is indeed a way to go like Jim mentioned as well,
but first i will try to get those branches well placed and get some natural balance and peace in to it.
I sure will try to open the dome shape a bit so that the tree is more inviting.
regards, Sunip Wink

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Post  craigw Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:26 pm

Hi Sunip, what a lovely tree. I would say at this stage you should leave lots of branching as its a very young tree plenty of time in the future to thin the branches but now they will all help to develop the trunk. I find that to get conifers to bud back you need to put them in a large grow box with a very open potting mix feed like crazy and work hard on the strong growth on the outside of the branches, this process will of course double your pinching work.
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Post  AlainK Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:16 pm

sunip wrote:Hi Alaink,
Not a larch but a pine.
This one is a yamadori from 2008 who was very vigorous.
After a repot this spring he went down.
Not patient enough i am affraid.

Ooooch...

Have you tried HB101, vita-bonsai, and the like ?

Cut 2/3 of the branches, put it in the shades under a plastic tent ? And don't touch the roots, try to work it out on the upper part. If you can get hold of soil with mycorrhyzzae (even in french, i can't spell it properly), put some on top of the pot.

Please, don't give up, try to save it even if you think it's dead...

Although when pines look like that, contrary to other conifers, well, er... pale
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Post  AlainK Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:37 pm

Something in-between ?...

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Post  sunip Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:28 am

[quote="AlainK"]
Although when pines look like that,

Hi Alain,
I gave him miccorhizzum, HB101 and regular spraying during the day.
Point is i had two yamadori pines from 2008 coming from the same location.
One did not to well, because it not managed to get enough water in the roots, so i decided to repot this one in spring 2010,
after the repot. this one is going very well now.
Because of that i felt i could safely work on the vigorous one to this spring.
I made the rootball smaller in the woodbox without removing the tree from the box.
I really should have left it there for this season and do a repot next year
but i decided to repot, unfortunately.
regards, Sunip;)

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Post  sunip Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:46 am

[quote="AlainK"]Something in-between ?...

Hi Alain,
Thanks for the virtual, i feel this one preserves better the atmosphere
of a majestic free standing tree.
You do not see much bonsai with branches spreading horizontal just above ground level.
Or should i say; the image of an untouched tree.
Thanks Graigw,
I go with that.
Regards, Sunip Wink

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Post  rolandp Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:01 pm

sunip wrote:
In a post a few days ago Pavel wrote that the Chamaecypharis pisifera will back-bud, a thing i was thinking impossible,
well i am very curious now if i can achieve this.

First of all compliments for the development of the tree, very nice potential for your future plan of final design.
My experience with this species is that if you feed it very aggressive (I’m using simple organic fertilizer) and daily pinch new growth as you mentioned it back-buds strongly.

regards,
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Post  sunip Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:29 pm

Hi Roland,
Thanks for your reply.
I already gave him some extra organic fertilizer.
I remember your nice sawara.
You where looking for a pot, well what about one with the same colour as mine
which works well with the foliage i feel?
regards, Sunip Wink

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