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Post  Guest on Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:58 am

HI IBC.

This tree was given to me by Jolz, when Ka Pabling (thanks Mang Pabling for the other tree too) visited him last week in his place.

Jolz wanted to know how I will deal with this wonderful tree.
For a long time now I was looking for a tree on the rock like this one...the weight (why weight not the size?) is perfect, the roots are long enough-probably more than a foot for the major roots.

I dreamed before of a floating tree (after I watched the movie ävatar, hehehe)...




tha perfect roots...









Thanks Jolz!!! you're the man.


regards,
jun


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Re: present from Jolz and a design challenge

Post  cram on Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:51 pm

hi jun!
i loved avatar...
the story is not very good ...but the nature and the flying rocks made me dream
so that my version of a floating tree for you
without pot only keto and moss
in a suiban full of water

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Re: present from Jolz and a design challenge

Post  Rob Kempinski on Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:54 pm

cram wrote:hi jun!
i loved avatar...
the story is not very good ...but the nature and the flying rocks made me dream
so that my version of a floating tree for you
without pot only keto and moss
in a suiban full of water

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Nice idea.


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Post  Ka Pabling on Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:17 pm

A clearer future for this tree, Jun

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Post  moyogijohn on Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:15 am

JUN,,, Your new tree looks good and is interesting!! did you post what this one is?? MY humble opion,,the roots comming down the rock are great but the circleing roots at the bottom i don,t know...if you keep the tree in a pot which i would do could you plant it deeper??? the pot looks to small for me but what do i know!!! it is a nice looking tree..please post your plan for it.. take care john

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Re: present from Jolz and a design challenge

Post  Guest on Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:31 am

Cram,
Thanks for the nice virt!

regards,
jun

People,

Thanks!

I wanted something more extreme...really near to the one I saw in avatar and in my dream... something like this.





I'll cut most of the upper part of the tree and grow new apex.
Let the roots grow thick enough to carry the weight of the rock.

regards,
jun





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Post  hirow08 on Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:24 am

Whoaaa! very unique idea sir Jun! Shocked

How i wish i can achieve the way you think on how to make something extremely impressive on bonsai materials.

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Post  Orion on Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:35 am

Jun, that has to be the most incredible design concept I've ever seen. It's creativity like yours that inspires so many of us.

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Re: present from Jolz and a design challenge

Post  Ka Pabling on Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:13 am


Thats it Jun, you have all the roots needed to carry that light limestone, very doable.

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Post  law on Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:13 am

Very funny to see that the creativity stay an international way.

I have three trees in action in this style that i've started just after i've seen the movie.

I should make it faster with tropical species if i lived in a tropical area but it's not the case so i believe it's not going to be finished until 8 or 10 years maybe.

For the moment i play on this way with two mapples and and one ulmus.[/url[url=https://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=525&u=14712944]

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Re: present from Jolz and a design challenge

Post  Guest on Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:59 pm

Thank you people for the compliments!

regards,
jun Smile


Law,

a movie fan like me right?
those are very nice compositions!

regards,
jun Smile

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Re: present from Jolz and a design challenge

Post  Guest on Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:03 pm

Hi IBC.



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how I make the temporary "floating device". and root guides.



the initial work.


filled with moss and covered with plastic wrap, defoliated the tree too after photo session...and wait...and wait...



regards,
jun





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Re: present from Jolz and a design challenge

Post  Benjamin on Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:59 pm

Awesome Jun! Consider using a masonry drill to drill out the stone from the bottom as much as possible to reduce weight. With some patience, you may be able to hollow out quite a bit without it being visible (particularly because the stone is already full of cavities).

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Re: present from Jolz and a design challenge

Post  fiona on Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:27 pm

I love this idea. Brilliant, Jun.

Purism can take a back seat on this one.

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Post  moyogijohn on Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:46 pm

O K JUN ,,, Now i see the picture !!! very different i have to say!! still a very nice tree and i can see your plan for the roots.. how long befor the bottom roots will hold the rock and tree??? good going keep it posted take care john

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Post  cram on Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:13 pm

well done jun! cheers
all the mood i love is in your tree

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Post  Ravi Kiran on Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:17 am

Hi Jun,

figuratively and literally an out of the world tree. You surpassed yourself with this design idea... All the very best on this and also on the challenge on reducing the leaf size....

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Re: present from Jolz and a design challenge

Post  Ka Pabling on Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:14 am

Not so fast jun, dont be in a hurry putting that tree in the pot.staighten the roots put it in a 4inch pvc pipe lenght will depend on you,fill the pvc with riversand then put lot of organic fertilizer below, in a few months you will have long and thicker roots. decide how long and thick the roots you want.
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Post  PkWk on Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:24 pm

Hi Jun,
You first have UFos, now Avatar, next Transformer?
Brilliant ideas.

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Re: present from Jolz and a design challenge

Post  Guest on Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:04 am

Thanks Ravi and Cram!

regards,
jun Smile


Mang Pabling,

Thanks.

I'll do that in the second stage of development after I got the coil on the base of the roots.
like this ficus below which I am developing with the same technique.



probably, I will plant the tree in the ground once the root coil is formed, this will serve as the base of the composition because all of the metal frame will be removed too. I hope it will work.

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Re: present from Jolz and a design challenge

Post  Guest on Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:30 am

PkWk wrote:Hi Jun,
You first have UFos, now Avatar, next Transformer?
Brilliant ideas.

...you missed the LOTR "Lord Of The Ring" saga-


the walking tree-Ent...



the enchanted home forest of the Ents...





Another Avatar tree...




and Fiona's "Dalek" the horned robot tree.





.....I am developing one very dark tree from a horror film.
.....Have you played "Angry birds" the trees in the background are lovely. coiled tapered branches, black color, no leaves,,,hehehe.

...as for the transformers, I'll ask Optimus prime if he can lend me an energon cubes for fertilizer.


regards,
jun
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Re: present from Jolz and a design challenge

Post  fiona on Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:29 am

jun wrote: I'll ask Optimus prime if he can lend me an energon cubes for fertilizer.
Oh Lord! Can't you just imagine the discussion that would spark on here about how effective it is. Wonder what the labelling is like and if says it helped win the second world war. Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad

But seriously - what is the purpose of the tubing - is it simply to get the roots to grow down straight or are there other reasons too?

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Post  Guest on Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:03 pm

fiona wrote:
jun wrote: I'll ask Optimus prime if he can lend me an energon cubes for fertilizer.
Oh Lord! Can't you just imagine the discussion that would spark on here about how effective it is. Wonder what the labelling is like and if says it helped win the second world war. Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad

But seriously - what is the purpose of the tubing - is it simply to get the roots to grow down straight or are there other reasons too?


...winning second world war with the energon cubes?? are you kidding? that clearly is an understatement Fiona. It is the object of desire of beings outside of this world...and can help win war of the worlds. Laughing


With regards to the less serious matter,,the bonsai matter that is. The tubings in the photo above contains mixture of sand, soil, and compost. after aerial roots appeared on the branches the tube serves as a direct feeding system
to the branches and aerial roots to fast track the growth of the branches or the aerial roots. it is a very effective method of fattening the branch and aerial roots.

regards,
jun

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Re: present from Jolz and a design challenge

Post  fiona on Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:08 pm

jun wrote:...winning second world war with the energon cubes?? are you kidding? that clearly is an understatement Fiona. It is the object of desire of beings outside of this world...and can help win war of the worlds. Laughing
I've sent your comment to the makers of Superthrive and they have replied that they're going to add it to their packaging. I'd go for one of their "cash reward" for that.

Interesting technique. I guess it really needs your climate and that things are therefore faster growing to work well.

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Post  Guest on Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:29 pm

Fiona,

I think it will work well in colder climates, especially for ficus. Ficus are tropicals and do not totally go to sleep during winter, having feeder tubes will increase the growth rate and survival of the tree and the branches and the higher portion of the trunk during this season. Logically speaking, with this technique substance needed by the upper part of the tree could reach the branches and branchlets directly and at a much faster rate, thus, the stress on the trunk area would be less. The under ground roots on the base of the trunk would feed the trunk and the aerial roots would feed the branches.
I am in tropical area, and my statement above is not yet tested in colder climate,,,but if somebody is willing to do an experiment I think the result will be beneficial to most people and trees in the colder regions.
...and I think it wont kill a tree.

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