"Juniper Passionii" first styling

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"Juniper Passionii" first styling

Post  alex e on Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:27 pm

This garden centre stock was bought 2007, apart
from a re-pot and general husbandry nothing had
been done until now.............

June 10th


Shari, jin carving completed for now






The tree was rested

Today initial styling completed



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Post  Rakesh on Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:16 pm

Hi Alex,
Nice Junipe but but why you do not let the hanging branch hang.
I would let all the braches grow up.
That would make the tree compact and attractive.
Maybe you can try that.
I think that you go repot this tree also.If so repot it in a smaller pot.

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Post  alex e on Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:02 pm

Rakesh wrote:Hi Alex,
Nice Junipe but but why you do not let the hanging branch hang.
I would let all the braches grow up.
That would make the tree compact and attractive.
Maybe you can try that.
I think that you go repot this tree also.If so repot it in a smaller pot.

Regards
Rakesh
Hi Rakesh firstley re- hanging branch,it would have been impossible to bend
the branch any further without snapping it No it was on the limit even
with the raffia and tape,hence the reason I left the four or five thinner
branches at the top third to further develop and is only the first styling,
regarding the pot ,this is a Mica pot used strictly for training purposes,
as I said it is garden centre stock and was in a flower pot. flower

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Post  RichLewis on Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:10 pm

Hi Alex

IMO I think you should have used the second picture as your front, just judging from the 2D image. It looks like a difficult piece of material, one thing I notice is the way everything points in different directions, and the long straight piece at the top of the tree. However, I like the way you have arranged the foliage. Perhaps if you're feeling adventurous you could grow that cascading branch longer, taking it below the rim of the pot. But from a perspective of balancing the image, you could probably reduce the jins as indicated by the blue lines and bring the apex over a bit to the right in the future.

just an idea

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Post  Rakesh on Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:28 am

Alex another idea of me is to cut of the hanging branch.
Let on branch in the top grow longer to the right. This is going to balance the tree more.
And Cheers is right also the upper peace is to straight.
If you take the second picture as the front then you can cover the straight piece and you can try to bend the hanging bracnh to the front.
I think that it is the best option.
As Cheers aid we are looking at a 2d.
Think of all the options and make the best decision.

Regards Rakesh

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Post  bonsaisr on Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:25 am

Sometimes it is amazing how plant names get mangled in the game of Telephone, especially being bounced across the ocean. What you have is a Parsons juniper (from Parsons nursery), sometimes incorrectly called Parsonii. The correct name is Juniperus davurica 'Expansa.' The species is Asian, but the cultivar is American.
Good luck with it. I hope having the proper label will enable you to style it even more beautifully. Razz Very Happy
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Post  RichLewis on Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:19 am

Rakesh wrote:Alex another idea of me is to cut of the hanging branch.
Let on branch in the top grow longer to the right. This is going to balance the tree more.
And Cheers is right also the upper peace is to straight.
If you take the second picture as the front then you can cover the straight piece and you can try to bend the hanging bracnh to the front.
I think that it is the best option.
As Cheers aid we are looking at a 2d.
Think of all the options and make the best decision.

Regards Rakesh

Haha, my name is Richard! 'Cheers' just means 'thanks' Laughing


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"Juniper Parsonii" first styling

Post  alex e on Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:42 am

bonsaisr wrote:Sometimes it is amazing how plant names get mangled in the game of Telephone, especially being bounced across the ocean. What you have is a Parsons juniper (from Parsons nursery), sometimes incorrectly called Parsonii. The correct name is Juniperus davurica 'Expansa.' The species is Asian, but the cultivar is American.
Good luck with it. I hope having the proper label will enable you to style it even more beutifully. Razz Very Happy
Iris
Thanks for that Iris, it was a cultivar I had never heard of before which made it even more interesting
even the nursery spelt it wrong, I will of course update the progress.

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Re: "Juniper Passionii" first styling

Post  fiona on Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:19 pm

If Alex bought it in the UK it is more likely to have been sold as J.chinensis "Parsonii". Websites indicate they are one and the same thing with chinensis being the prefered name - over here at least.

You've got a nice shape into the foliage, Alex, and that from a tricky bit of material to start with.

If it had been mine, (only MHO of course) I may have worked with the foliage closer to the hairpin. But that is based on 2-D photos which as we know can be misleading. Would like to see how this one develops over the next couple of years.



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Post  alex e on Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:56 pm

Hi Fi, your right the 2d photo does nothing for it, it was a tricky piece but I
do like material others may disregard, of course I will keep you up to date of
its progression.

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Juniper 'Parsonii'

Post  bonsaisr on Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:32 pm

fiona wrote:If Alex bought it in the UK it is more likely to have been sold as J.chinensis "Parsonii".
Uh oh. It seems that tree names change as fast as orchid names these days. This just in from the Internet:
<<Juniperus chinensis 'Parsonii' - Formerly Juniperus davurica 'Expansa'..>>
There is nothing more sobering than to discover that you have made a perfect ass of yourself on an Internet forum in view of the entire world. Embarassed
Remind me again to read my own signature line.
Iris

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Post  fiona on Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:43 pm

Hah hah. But Iris, it takes a brave (and wise) woman to admit on an Internet forum in view of the entire world that she has made a perfect ass of herself on an Internet forum in view of the entire world.

You remain a credit and inspiration to all of us.

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Post  Russell Coker on Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:50 pm

bonsaisr wrote: There is nothing more sobering than to discover that you have made a perfect ass of yourself on an Internet forum in view of the entire world. Embarassed

Iris, I don't think anyone will hold it against you, although it will be noted in your permanent record Very Happy
Heck, I seem to do it on a regular basis these days!

Alex, I like your juniper, but I do find that long jin branch on the lower right to be really distracting.

R

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Re: "Juniper Passionii" first styling

Post  Pavel Slovák on Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:59 pm

Hi Alex
Very good first styling.ThumbsUp
Sorry that I have borrowed pictures. I quickly tried a virtual online exhibition of "Zvonice" (I am now the night shift:D Very Happy ). Maybe in this way?

Gretings Pavel


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"Juniper Parsonii" first styling

Post  alex e on Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:22 am

Hi Pavel thanks I appreciate your virtual, apart from the jins which are at the still very
workable stage your vision is as mine 3yrs down the road, hey! early days but the skeleton
is in place to build on. ThumbsUp

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