Airlayering 'Scarlet Paul' Hawthorn

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Airlayering 'Scarlet Paul' Hawthorn

Post  RichLewis on Thu May 26, 2011 4:50 pm

Hello all

How well do 'Scarlet Paul' hawthorns take to airlayering? I removed a ring of cambium and dusted with rooting hormone and am just keeping it damp.

You tend to see a lot of hawthorn bonsai with white flowers, I thought I would give this cultivar a go as the red/pink flowers are quite attractive. Don't know how well they take they take to this method of propagation. Any tips or ideas would be appreciated!

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Re: Airlayering 'Scarlet Paul' Hawthorn

Post  Lee Brindley on Fri May 27, 2011 9:07 pm

There was a recent thread on Paul's Scarlet and the subject of air-layering came up. I would be interested to read the replies here. I too have attempted an air-layer a few weeks ago. What I have read from various sources is that they are slower to take than common hawthorn.

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Re: Airlayering 'Scarlet Paul' Hawthorn

Post  Ian Young on Fri May 27, 2011 10:36 pm

They say [who ever they are] that they are slower than a normal hawthorn, but I'm interested to see how yours progresses. I've been wanting to do the same, just can't find one good enough.

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Re: Airlayering 'Scarlet Paul' Hawthorn

Post  RichLewis on Sat May 28, 2011 1:26 am

Thanks for the replies guys! I guess we'll have to wait and see. This tree belongs to my father and he has spent several years pruning and shaping it; I could have chosen a better branch but didn't want to ruin the tree as it's not mine.

I had an idea to cut off all the spent flowers to see if that would help rooting but it's not feasible as the branch is way too high. I often see this cultivar for sale grafted onto another rootstock, so perhaps it's not as robust root-wise.

Something has been chewing at some airlayers on another tree in the garden, so I may have some work to do this week! Mad

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airlayering paul scarlet

Post  paul.spearman on Mon May 30, 2011 8:42 am

Hi Richard i airlayard a paul scalert 5 years ago they dont airlay very well after 8 months i removed
from tree into a 50 percent grit and akerdama mix taken the 5 years to start growing and root development best of luck Paul

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Re: Airlayering 'Scarlet Paul' Hawthorn

Post  Tony on Mon May 30, 2011 10:00 am

'They' do say that Paul's Scarlet takes longer.. and if that 'Paul' is paul.spearman then 'They' may well be correct.

I too would like to air layer a Paul's Scarlet but have yet to find a suitable donor branch as they are all rather straight and with little character. Sad

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airlayer paul scarlet

Post  paul.spearman on Mon May 30, 2011 10:57 am

yes its Paul Spearman of the 2 i tried both of them were slow ,on a large common Hawthorn I
airlayered 14 inch truck six months job done all airlayers done in march
reg Paul

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Re: Airlayering 'Scarlet Paul' Hawthorn

Post  RichLewis on Mon May 30, 2011 2:18 pm

Thanks for your replies guys! Paul, would you describe the method you use? There are plenty of common hawthorn available in the garden. Would now be good time to try a layer?

If the Paul's Scarlet doesn't root, I won't lose too much sleep. Although, perhaps it would be possible to graft some common hawthorn whips (which spring up everywhere here) onto a branch and severe it once they have bonded over a few seasons.

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Re: Airlayering 'Scarlet Paul' Hawthorn

Post  Ian Young on Mon May 30, 2011 4:02 pm

Here's a link that might be of interest. It's a layer on a hawthorn that I did last year.

http://bonsaieejit.wordpress.com/case-studies/air-layering-a-hawthorn/

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Re: Airlayering 'Scarlet Paul' Hawthorn

Post  Tony on Mon May 30, 2011 4:04 pm

Ian Young wrote:Here's a link that might be of interest. It's a layer on a hawthorn that I did last year.

http://bonsaieejit.wordpress.com/case-studies/air-layering-a-hawthorn/

I really like this post on your blog when I saw it earlier... 'cept he is not happy when its cut off... cheer up mate


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Re: Airlayering 'Scarlet Paul' Hawthorn

Post  Ian Young on Mon May 30, 2011 4:43 pm

tony wrote:
Ian Young wrote:Here's a link that might be of interest. It's a layer on a hawthorn that I did last year.

http://bonsaieejit.wordpress.com/case-studies/air-layering-a-hawthorn/

I really like this post on your blog when I saw it earlier... 'cept he is not happy when its cut off... cheer up mate


Oi!! It was baltic and the mate kept feckin about with the camera lol!

Going to trawl the interweb for grumpy photos of you now jocolor

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Re: Airlayering 'Scarlet Paul' Hawthorn

Post  Ian Young on Mon May 30, 2011 5:03 pm

Is this grumpy? Hard to tell flower

and you don;t look the life and soul here either jocolor jocolor

Isn't the interweb fun ThumbsUp

I must admit, in 99% of my search, you were smiling Very Happy

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Re: Airlayering 'Scarlet Paul' Hawthorn

Post  RichLewis on Mon May 30, 2011 7:45 pm

Thanks for the link Ian, seems I was along the right lines. It was a good layer, cheer up!

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Re: Airlayering 'Scarlet Paul' Hawthorn

Post  Ian Young on Mon May 30, 2011 11:39 pm

RichLewis wrote:Thanks for the link Ian, seems I was along the right lines. It was a good layer, cheer up!

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Suspect lol!

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Re: Airlayering 'Scarlet Paul' Hawthorn

Post  Tony on Tue May 31, 2011 9:16 am

Ian Young wrote: I must admit, in 99% of my search, you were smiling Very Happy

Hi Ian this Interweb thingy is a Dangerous tool in the wrong hands.

Its a shame you chose this photo as we were in a state of shock after visiting the Flanders War Museum Ypers on a trip to Belgium... well worth a trip 'Lest we forget' Crying or Very sad

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Re: Airlayering 'Scarlet Paul' Hawthorn

Post  Ian Young on Tue May 31, 2011 9:25 am

tony wrote:
Ian Young wrote: I must admit, in 99% of my search, you were smiling Very Happy

Hi Ian this Interweb thingy is a Dangerous tool in the wrong hands.

Its a shame you chose this photo as we were in a state of shock after visiting the Flanders War Museum Ypers on a trip to Belgium... well worth a trip 'Lest we forget' Crying or Very sad

I did a battlefields tour of France and Belgium last September. My wife, not a history person, came with and was as stunned as I was by what we saw. The War graves on both sides were beyond comprehension. Hard to smile indeed, but because of their sacrifice, we are free to smile today.

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airlayering paul scarlet

Post  paul.spearman on Tue May 31, 2011 11:29 am

Hi Richard
Ian Youngs link is spot on. the only difference being i left a 10mm strip down each side
for saftey as i airlayered the whole tree at the base i also used hormone rooting powder
reg Paul

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Re: Airlayering 'Scarlet Paul' Hawthorn

Post  RichLewis on Tue May 31, 2011 3:15 pm

paul.spearman wrote:Hi Richard
Ian Youngs link is spot on. the only difference being i left a 10mm strip down each side
for saftey as i airlayered the whole tree at the base i also used hormone rooting powder
reg Paul

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Update

Post  RichLewis on Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:08 pm

Hello all

Had a check under the moss today; it's forming a callous on one side and what appears to be the beginning of very small roots. Looks to be working!

Found a few earwigs in there, are they likely to pose a problem?

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Air-layering 'Paul's Scarlet'

Post  bonsaisr on Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:12 am

RichLewis wrote:
Found a few earwigs in there, are they likely to pose a problem?

Cheers
Earwigs are reported to eat plants, but I have never found them particularly voracious. The only problem is they bite.
'Paul's Scarlet' and the other named hybrid hawthorns are Crataegus xmedia. The common hawthorn is C. monogyna. It is not surprising that they behave a little differently.
Iris


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