lichen on the pine trunk

View previous topic View next topic Go down

lichen on the pine trunk

Post  xuan le on Fri May 20, 2011 2:36 pm

Hi all,

I need help, I have a JBP with a lot of lichen on its trunk, should I remove them? If yes how do I do without destroying the bark?
Your sugestions are highly appreciated.
Regards

Xuan



xuan le
Member


Back to top Go down

Re: lichen on the pine trunk

Post  EdMerc on Fri May 20, 2011 2:46 pm

I believe a safe way to remove that is with a toothbrush and white vinegar. I've used that for cleaning trees myself and have never had a problem. However, none of the trees I did this to where pines. I'm hoping someone with pine experience weighs in on this.

Ed

EdMerc
Member


Back to top Go down

Re: lichen on the pine trunk

Post  MrFancyPlants on Fri May 20, 2011 2:59 pm

I like the lichen. It bringss out the "white" in white pine. I wouldn't think it would be as dangerous as having moss growing up your trunk, but I am no expert.

David

MrFancyPlants
Member


Back to top Go down

Re: lichen on the pine trunk

Post  Guest on Fri May 20, 2011 3:04 pm

I like to see Lichens around the base of Pines and you quite often see it arond the base of trees in Japan. There are products for removal but Pine bark is fragile so beware.

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Lichen

Post  bonsaisr on Fri May 20, 2011 3:26 pm

Why would you want to remove it? It is a harmless epiphyte & makes the tree look old. Nice if you get more than one color. Not the same as moss or algae.
Iris

bonsaisr
Member


Back to top Go down

Re: lichen on the pine trunk

Post  handy mick on Fri May 20, 2011 3:56 pm

I think you should leave it as well.

Mick

handy mick
Member


Back to top Go down

Re: lichen on the pine trunk

Post  xuan le on Fri May 20, 2011 4:18 pm

Thanks everybodý if it is not harmful, I'll leave them.

Xuan

xuan le
Member


Back to top Go down

Re: lichen on the pine trunk

Post  AK_Panama on Fri May 20, 2011 4:23 pm

I heard that natural listerine mixed with water and a soft toothbrush is the best for removing moss from trunks and nebari.

Is this true, or is it better to use white vinegar?


AK_Panama
Member


Back to top Go down

Re: lichen on the pine trunk

Post  Todd Ellis on Sat May 21, 2011 2:14 am

Hi Xuan,
A little lichen is not harmful, but I would brush (toothbrush and water) some off periodically. Anything that absorbs water will keep the areas moist and can potentially decay some of the bark. Soft repeated scrubbing with the tooth brush should be gentle enough not to harm the bark, but do it with caution. I have talked with various people about "lichen" and their reviews are mixed. I have an elm with lichen on its branches and I'm watching it. I have seem some other grower's bonsai covered with it and the trees looked like they were struggling. The more "stuff" you have covering a branch or trunk will certainly impede air circulation from reaching the bark; air is something our trees need.
Nice tree by the way!
Best,
Todd

Todd Ellis
Member


Back to top Go down

Re: lichen on the pine trunk

Post  Guest on Sat May 21, 2011 3:16 am

Lichens are very slow growing and don't need or retain a lot of water( look at gravestones). They are also a good indication of a healthy environment.

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: lichen on the pine trunk

Post  Todd Ellis on Sat May 21, 2011 3:56 am

Xuan,
Check out this link about lichens: Overall, lichens are not a problem per se, but they can interfere with gas exchange on branches.
Best,
Todd

http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/A/ANR-0857/ANR-0857.pdf

Todd Ellis
Member


Back to top Go down

Re: lichen on the pine trunk

Post  Liserd on Sat May 21, 2011 7:27 pm

Hello

By what i´ve read over and over, lichens are not armfull to trees and they are normally an indicator of good air quality.
But, for what i´ve seen in Portugal, there is a type of lichen more fluffy almost like a dried moss, that grows specially on Quercus Robur, Suber and Coccifera that covers the all tree eventually killing it.

But that´s a diferent kind that i´ve never seen here in Potugal.

Greetings
Mário

Liserd
Member


Back to top Go down

Re: lichen on the pine trunk

Post  Todd Ellis on Sat May 21, 2011 11:19 pm

We have a similar kind of lichen that you describe, in Virginia, and I have seen "struggling" bonsai covered in it. As the saying goes " a little bit goes a long way ... or, less is more" Very Happy
Todd

Todd Ellis
Member


Back to top Go down

Re: lichen on the pine trunk

Post  Liserd on Sun May 22, 2011 2:59 am

Hello

Todd - If i´m right, were talking about this lichen.

http://www.nwnature.net/lichens/images/lichen07.jpg

It´s a usual scene in Portugal to see old Oaks and Olives covered with these kind of lichen.

Greetings
Mário

Liserd
Member


Back to top Go down

Re: lichen on the pine trunk

Post  xuan le on Sun May 22, 2011 8:31 pm

Todd Ellis wrote:Xuan,
Check out this link about lichens: Overall, lichens are not a problem per se, but they can interfere with gas exchange on branches.
Best,
Todd

http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/A/ANR-0857/ANR-0857.pdf

Thanks for the link Todd, it is very interesting.

Xuan

xuan le
Member


Back to top Go down

Re: lichen on the pine trunk

Post  Todd Ellis on Mon May 23, 2011 12:04 am

You are very welcome. Are you going to the Benke Auction next week? Todd

Todd Ellis
Member


Back to top Go down

Re: lichen on the pine trunk

Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Mon May 23, 2011 12:22 am

Xuan

Although you have received a lot of replies that lichen is not harmful, and I agree, I think your lichen look too heavy (thick) I would try to reduce it, maybe with a plain toothbrush and no chemicals.

Billy

Billy M. Rhodes
Member


Back to top Go down

Re: lichen on the pine trunk

Post  xuan le on Mon May 23, 2011 12:43 pm

Thanks again everybody for your sugestions and comments
To Todd : I promised to take a friend to Unlimited Garden (Bod and Todd's place) I think you know them.
To Billy : To thin out the lichen should I use a soft wet brush?

Xuan

xuan le
Member


Back to top Go down

Re: lichen on the pine trunk

Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Mon May 23, 2011 2:08 pm

I would just use an old toothbrush. Or, if you are mean the current toothbrush of someone you don't like.

Billy M. Rhodes
Member


Back to top Go down

Re: lichen on the pine trunk

Post  Sponsored content Today at 2:36 pm


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum