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Post  JimLewis on Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:22 am

It will be nice if all these turn into red berries. But that seldom happens. Birds, I think.


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Post  bonsaisr on Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:15 am

I hope mine is worth showing eventually. To keep the birds away, just put your tree out on the bench in a birdcage.
You'd better have that sick sheep tested for anthrax. Maybe that's what all those sheiks came down with.
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Post  coh on Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:11 pm

Nice, healthy looking tree! I'm not 100% sure about that lower right branch, to me it seems a little out of synch with the rest of the composition (which I really like a lot). Then again, I'm new at this so what do I know?

Do you know which variety of cotoneaster this is?

Chris

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Post  dave steventon on Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:32 pm

nice tree Very Happy

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Post  moyogijohn on Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:33 pm

JIM,,,,I like it!! another nice tree....take care john

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Post  JimLewis on Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:31 pm

Thanks all. It is Cotoneaster dammeri.

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Post  Guest on Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:29 pm

Jim-
If you brought that lower right branch up just 15 degrees I'd be even more In love. Great choice of pot color to match the flowers! Excellent work, I see we share a love of the little guys!

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Post  JimLewis on Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:52 am

coh wrote:Nice, healthy looking tree! I'm not 100% sure about that lower right branch, to me it seems a little out of synch with the rest of the composition (which I really like a lot). Then again, I'm new at this so what do I know?

Chris

I think I need the branch:



I'm not good enough at virts to move it up as suggested, but I kinda like it that low, so we'll see.

Yes. I'd rather by far to do a 4-inch tree than a 20-inch tree.

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Post  Damienindesert on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:15 am

Tree looks lovely. I have one of these that I thought was starting to look quite good. Then I looked at yours and suddenly mine looks a mess again. You like that lower branch, you keep the lower branch. Your tree, and your art.

Thanks for sharing.

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Post  bonsaisr on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:21 am

I like the second picture better. In the first one, it looks as though it is going to fall over.
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Post  david g on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:23 am

Ohh that cotoneaster mas nice!!! Precious this small one

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Post  Hawaiian77 on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:51 am

Howzit Jim,

Very nice. ThumbsUp It must take a lot of work to keep it looking the way it is. Good on you mate!!

A Hui Hou,
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Post  coh on Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:11 am

I like it much better without the lower branch, but I think I understand why you want to keep it. I think what bothers me is that there is so much "mass" at the end of that branch, from where it splits to the end, that it makes the tree appear unbalanced ("fall over" as Iris says). Maybe the best compromise would be to shorten but keep that branch. Either way, it is a great looking tree.

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Post  JimLewis on Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:39 pm

So. ???????






I still think I like it longer . . . or do I? Hmmmmm?


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Post  Guest on Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:03 pm

Jim
I just saved the original photo and I'll play with it on photoshop to try to virtu-wire that lower branch upward just a bit but i have to finish my work round here first, play later!

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Post  Guest on Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:51 pm

Work is done..tree time!

Moved bottom branch upwards and neatened up underneath, I think this brings balance that may or may not be desireable to you. This particular tree is re-kindling my Cotoneaster desires, I may be hunting the Nursery's with an eye for one this spring.

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Post  JimLewis on Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:48 pm

Many thanks. I do like it.

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Post  Guest on Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:39 pm

Jim-
what species Cotoneaster is that? What species cotoneaster is best suitable for bonsai in your opinion? Or at least which do you like?

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Post  Guest on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:08 pm

I just read a great article on Acer Rubrum on evergreen garden works (which is a site I consult frequently) and I realized "hey wait a minute thats Jim Lewis!" The same Jim Lewis..in few months I may be picking your brain about my red maple I lifted this year and am Just starting with...

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Post  JimLewis on Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:19 am

The only Cotoneaster I've worked with is C. dammeri. It is one of the miniature varieties and I chose it because of the tiny leaves and even tinier flowers -- with relatively large fruit.

Most bonsaiests work with the larger species/varieties and I can give no advice about them. Dameri, howver, will strike cuttings even if you lay a cut-off branch on top of the soil (assuming you keep it damp).

Lordy! That red maple article is ancient! I'd forgotten all about it. I still have a couple of small A. rubrum in pots, but have pretty much given up on it as a source of really good bonsai.

I do have a tiny one under very early development, though <g>. I don't expect too much from it. It is one of the small-leafed varieties native to northernmost Florida and southern Georgia.


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Post  bonsaisr on Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:43 am

C. dammeri 'Strieb's Findling' is widely sold in the nurseries and recommended for bonsai.
The tiniest Cotoneaster is C. apiculatus 'Tom Thumb.' This species is naturalized in Kentucky & Pennsylvania.
Tom Thumb is sometimes described as rarely forming flowers or fruits, whereas elsewhere it is described as having tiny pink flowers and red fruit. Possibly more than one form marketed under this name. ‘Tom Thumb’ appears to have uncertain origins, and one may find it listed as a selection of Cotoneaster apiculatus, C. adpressus or C. horizontalis. According to Iseli, cultivar was introduced from Germany in the 1960s.
I just potted mine & it doesn't look like anything yet. I also have one in the foundation planting.
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Post  Guest on Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:34 pm

Iris-

Is it C. Dammeri that rarely produces flowers or fruits or is it the C. apiculatus "Tom thumb" that rarely flowers or fruits. I have a list going in my wallet of what to look out for at the nursery next time I go. So this is helping!

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Post  bonsaisr on Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:50 pm

Does that help?
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Post  JimLewis on Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:49 pm

man on the mountain wrote:Iris-

Is it C. Dammeri that rarely produces flowers or fruits or is it the C. apiculatus "Tom thumb" that rarely flowers or fruits. I have a list going in my wallet of what to look out for at the nursery next time I go. So this is helping!

Dammeri flowers prolifically; abou half he flowers seem to prpduce fruit -- more than enough for plants as small as mine.

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Post  Guest on Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:41 pm

Thank you for the clarification Jim, I have a few good landscape nursery's out my way and I'll be making the rounds hopefully thursday. The fact that I'm hunting down a Cotoneaster now is absolutely your fault. Very Happy

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