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New pot for a little maple

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Post  JimLewis Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:25 pm

In the old pot last year . . .

New pot for a little maple Mini_112

And in the new one . . .

New pot for a little maple Acer_b10

It needs a leaf trim, but I'm gonna leave it be for a week or two.
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Post  Guest Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:00 pm

With respect Jim, this needs a little more than a leaf trim. How about developing some taper in a bigger pot?

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Post  moyogijohn Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:01 pm

Jim,,your new pot looks really nice! How do you trim trees that small?? me i wouldhave nothing left.. good tree,,take care john

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Post  Todd Ellis Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:39 am

Jim, this is a lovely Penjing. I like both pots. I prefer the solid color pot; the tree looks older. Perhaps because the base is flared with the roots more exposed and there are fewer leaves. I know you have to grow it on to establish branch thickness.
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Post  NeilDellinger Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:42 am

Not too sure...but I think this needs to go in the ground to thicken up for a few years. Rolling Eyes

Hey, as long as you like it, carry on Very Happy

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Post  sunip Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:33 am

Hi Jim,
Of cours the others are right BUT
i like it!
Much better pot to enjoy the delicate tree,
in an ideal world the branch on the pot would be of a bit different kind
but that is maybe just artist talk.
Sunip Wink

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Post  JimLewis Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:42 pm

Yes. That's a cherry or plum branch on the pot. Maybe I'll find a suitable flowering cascade some day.

I wonder, though . . . I know why Will makes his comments, but why do others think a literati cascade needs "thickening"? I've been showing this little fellow for a few years now to favorable commentary, and none of the guest experts commented that they thought it needed to be fatter. It has pretty uniform taper from base to top.

I like the other pot, too, but wanted to give the tree the opportunity to be more of a "cascade" -- and I like fancy pots for the tiny trees.
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Post  Guest Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:54 pm

"I know why Will makes his comments". Sorry Jim, I don't know what you mean by this loaded remark and please don't pretend to know my intentions? I was no more offering advice to you than I, or you would do to anyone "new" or "experienced" in this forum. Literati trees don't have to have great taper indeed but they do and should look old old? To go further with this, the tree should at least be planted in the centre or right of centre? There also appears to be a branch on the inside of the curve? I always try and give constructive critisism but you seem to take it the wrong way.New pot for a little maple Acer_b10

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Post  Russell Coker Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:19 pm

will baddeley wrote: "I know why Will makes his comments". Sorry Jim, I don't know what you mean by this loaded remark and please don't pretend to know my intentions? I was no more offering advice to you than I, or you would do to anyone "new" or "experienced" in this forum. Literati trees don't have to have great taper indeed but they do and should look old old? To go further with this, the tree should at least be planted in the centre or right of centre? There also appears to be a branch on the inside of the curve? I always try and give constructive critisism but you seem to take it the wrong way.New pot for a little maple Acer_b10


Will, seems like reasonable advice to me! Too much pot for me, but I don't like those deep cascade pots.
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Post  Guest Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:06 am

jim- I like the tree I like the odd smallness of it and it reminds me of a box-elder with its leaves, yet I don't think that is the correct pot for that tree, the pot is actually distracting me from the tree. In my mind the blue and white is whats jarring as I feel it somehow doesn't fit that tree, its to garrish for that simple green no frills leaf shape and the grey of the trunk Its not so much the shape of the pot or even your styling in a semi-cascade that throws me. This may seem weird but how about a deep blood red pot to match the leaf petioles? Sometimes my best color matches for a tree have been when I matched the petiole color not the leaves or trunk. But don't worry about thickness it has its place but these little guys are best just being kept to perspective and good proportion without the need to bulk up the trunk!


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Post  gregb Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:44 am

This would be a cool little tree for root-over-rock style Idea

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Post  JimLewis Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:55 pm

I kinda like the idea of the red pot, but unless I find one I like over the next year, it'll probably go back into the white one. I'll save this one for a flowering bonsai -- maybe a quince. I have several cuttings of a white-blooming quince underway. Or, for a smaller flower, a mini-Cotoneaster.

I'm afraid that little branch growing against the bonsai law that prohibits it being on the inside of a curve is gonna stay there. I like it. It needs to be there.

I'll try to center the tree in the pot more next repot, but I didn't want to disturb the roots at this time of year -- much too late for a maple repot with root work around here. But again that smacks of being a bit of slavish adherence to the "rules," as this looks OK to me. But I was aware of that "issue."

I've given it its haircut. You can see the trunk better. Not sure how it can look much "older."

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