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Mame common ash (Fraxinus Excelsior)

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Post  pascal37 Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:48 pm

Hello from France,
My project, in training since 2006. Not really easy with fraxinus species.

What do you think about ?

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Post  Guest Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:09 pm

Hi Pascal. Good to see your using a native. Ash dont seem very popular as bonsai, but ive just collected one from a graveyard that needed tidying. Yours looks very promising and good leaf size too.

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Post  Velodog2 Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:16 pm

Yes you have certainly done a good job of leaf reduction! Anything with compound leaves is going to be a challenge to bonsai, and especially as a mame, but you have done a credible job here.

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Post  Penjing Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:22 pm

Good start...

I apologize but i think it looks like a branch stuck in the ground. Accuse elves of dirty tricks What a Face

Good job for a beginner ! Keep working !
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Post  pascal37 Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:55 pm

"Good job for a beginner ! Keep working " Smile

some of my works....!

...enjoy !

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Post  Guest Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:14 pm

Well, they dont look like branches stuck in the ground! Good work and nice to see the history.

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Post  JimLewis Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:26 pm

Pascal . . .

It's difficult to make a compound leafed tree into a mini-bonsai. Good start. I think your last picture (where you are measuring it with your fingers) shows where your bonsai really is.

I'd air later just below the sharp bend (below).

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Post  Harleyrider Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:10 pm

Like most places in the UK, my house is surrounded by Ash trees. In fact I don't think you're ever more than 50ft from one anywhere in this country!
I've often wondered about their suitability for bonsai, but everything I've read tells me they are too much trouble. I know Walter Pall has done some, and Kev Bailey has mentioned that it is do-able, but I wouldn't know where to start.
Is there any chance of a quick explanation as to how you achieved this remarkable transformation, Pascal? Smile

Oh, and not for the first time today, I agree with Jim. I think losing the short straight section of trunk would give the tree even more character, as well as make it even smaller than it is!
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Post  Guest Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:59 pm

If I was going to air layer this tree I would remove the bark at the same place but at a 45 degree angle. Left high sloping down to the right. Then plant the tree sloping to the left.

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Post  Guest Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:13 pm

Something like this.Mame common ash (Fraxinus Excelsior) Fraxma10

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Post  gregb Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:38 am

will baddeley wrote:Something like this.Mame common ash (Fraxinus Excelsior) Fraxma10

Much better Idea

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Post  pascal37 Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:33 am

..thanks !!! for air layering..i wait... the trunk is really small and not thick at time.


"Is there any chance of a quick explanation as to how you achieved this remarkable transformation, Pascal?
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...no secret (I try with my bad english) ! It's a young tree from a seed (5 years old) who grew with difficult in my garden and with no care. I've collected it because of a small nodes serie on the trunk : a real candidate for a small tree. After cutting it, i put it in a small pot (spring 2006), and let it grow for a new structure...the result was very interesting : many small branches pierced the trunk.

09/2007, i've just stopped strong branches
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09/2008, same work
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04/2009, well ,it's time for back budding.
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06/2009 after defoliating

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you can find detail here (sorry, it's in french !)
http://www.parlonsbonsai.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=12844&view=findpost&p=510831

after this first defoliating....big leaves, but nice back budding !
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End of august 2009, i decide to defoliate it a second time ! (not a problem with ash)
...nice result !

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Post  pascal37 Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:53 pm

update !
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Post  Pola Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:59 pm

It may not be "suitable" for bonsai,but I think your perseverance is paying off...keep it up!! I agree about the airlayering...good job!! ThumbsUp
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Post  AlainK Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:57 pm

I can see that you didn't use wound sealant (mastic à cicatriser) : I found out that for deciduous trees, it helps a lot for the cut to heal.

I know your other ash trees, they're fantastic, so much for those who think that this species is not suitable for bonsai Razz

I'm working on a couple of these, for instance this one that was made from a cutting as big as my thumb (taken in February a few years ago) :

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