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Post  F. Waheedy on Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:22 am

Hello,

Inspired by Mike's Crab Apple, I bought this little tree last weekend at BoBB.

Also attached is a couple of pictures of my other Malus Sylvestris I've had for a few years. Never flowered though Sad

Hope you like the trees. I'd much appreciate any growing / styling tips on both trees.

Regards,

Faisal











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Post  Dave Martin on Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:10 am

Your'e a lucky boy, if only I had been there.....

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Post  Hans Vleugels on Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:02 pm

Wow Faisal, that big one looks very promising! Do you have any pictures of it without leaves?

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Post  sunip on Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:11 pm

Hi Faisal, the second is looking ancient.
Show us some pictures when you start the styling please.
regards, Sunip Wink

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Post  landerloos on Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:17 pm

Hi Faisal, why you bought this tree, what do you like?
My shohin crab aple is pushing flowerbuds at the moment.

Keep apple moist at all times, I myself always never use pottingsoil accept for yamadori and yes your wright apples, just a litlle in the soilmixture helps you keep it moist.
I cut a little in high summer otherwise you take flowering pieces away.

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Post  Lone on Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:26 pm

Hi Faisal.
I wouldn't worry about the flowers if the big one was my tree - just love it as it is! It looks amazing and I too would love to see a photo of it without leaves.
Best wishes
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Post  F. Waheedy on Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:26 pm

Hans Vleugels wrote:Wow Faisal, that big one looks very promising! Do you have any pictures of it without leaves?

Thanks, Hans. I think I have a few pictures of the tree without leaves. I will post them for you.

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Post  F. Waheedy on Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:29 pm

[quote="landerloos"]Hi Faisal, why you bought this tree, what do you like?

Thank you, Peter. I like the trunk movement on this little tree and thought I'd plant it in the ground for a few years
and let it grow and thicken up.

I do keep my big tree in part shade and keep it moist most time. I'm quite happy with it's progress.

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Post  F. Waheedy on Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:32 pm

Lone wrote:Hi Faisal.
I wouldn't worry about the flowers if the big one was my tree - just love it as it is! It looks amazing and I too would love to see a photo of it without leaves.
Best wishes
Lone

Hi Lone, Good to see you on IBC. Glad you like my tree. I will post some more pictures shortly.

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Post  F. Waheedy on Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:33 pm

sunip wrote:Hi Faisal, the second is looking ancient.
Show us some pictures when you start the styling please.
regards, Sunip Wink

Hi Sunip,

It's a very old tree with natural hollow trunk.
I will post some more pictures soon.

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Post  landerloos on Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:31 pm

Hi Faisal,

in the picture its hard to see how the new apple looks, need a picture of the tree without pot so one can see the nebari aso.
The big one is stunning, why does it not flower?
Could be because its a wild species, and they need many years, you keep it quiet short, I think you clip the flowering spurs away, apples do need and left growing wild for a litle bit.

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Post  bonsaisr on Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:54 pm

I dunno about wild species. I once had a local collected species but it got full of borers.
If you want flowers, get one of the newer disease resistant cultivars. I have 'Indian Summer,' which produces beautiful mauve flowers every spring. If you hunt around, you can probably find someone who grows them from cuttings.
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Post  Ian Young on Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:59 am

Could be because its a wild species, and they need many years, you keep it quiet short, I think you clip the flowering spurs away, apples do need and left growing wild for a litle bit.

I would agree with this. The wild ones take a while. I know it's old but all the growth is young. Keep doing what you are doing and one year it will surprise you with flowers. I have about 15 of them planted in the ground for 12 years now. I'm just developing heavy trunks. Not worried about flowers yet. Last year was the first I saw any flowers and that was one cluster on one tree!!

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Post  bonsaisr on Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:02 pm

[quote="Ian Young"]
I know it's old but all the growth is young.
On trees in this group, individual branches may not reach puberty until they are ten years old. I had a hawthorn with a bottom branch that developed after I bought it. The tree bloomed every year, but the bottom branch never bloomed (tree is now deceased).
The advantage of cutting-grown cultivars is that they bloom at an early age. I bought my 'Indian Summer' in 1999 and it started blooming in 2004. It is in bud just in time for Passover.
Iris

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Post  landerloos on Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:27 pm

Faisal my friend I will take that big craptree from your hands Twisted Evil Wink Very Happy
I will get it in flower for sure in a couple of years.

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Post  F. Waheedy on Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:46 pm

landerloos wrote:Faisal my friend I will take that big craptree from your hands Twisted Evil Wink Very Happy
I will get it in flower for sure in a couple of years.

Peter

All yours, Peter. When do you wanna come around to pick it up :-))

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Post  F. Waheedy on Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:56 pm

[quote="Ian Young"]
Could be because its a wild species, and they need many years, you keep it quiet short, I think you clip the flowering spurs away, apples do need and left growing wild for a litle bit.

Thanks, Ian.

I'm not touching it this year. Just let it grow and see if it flowers then. maybe in the next few years.

@ Iris : Thanks, Iris. I will look for cutting grown cultivars and plant them in the ground to thicken up.

Thanks for your advice.

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Crab Apple

Post  Guest on Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:16 pm

Dave Martin wrote:Your'e a lucky boy, if only I had been there.....
What happened to you Dave, thought you'd be there?

Great trees Faz, particularly the big boy.

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Post  F. Waheedy on Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:58 pm

Thanks, Will. The big one is probably the biggest crab apple I've ever seen.
Do you not think it's sitting a bit too low in the pot?

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Post  Guest on Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:03 pm

Looks like it could be raised up a little and you could do this now as long as the rootball is solid but it's not a problem for 1 year

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Post  F. Waheedy on Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:04 pm

I'd rather do it next year. Needs re potting anyway.

Thanks.

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Post  Harleyrider on Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:45 pm

Faisal my friend I will take that big craptree from your hands

Is this some new cultivar that I was unaware of? Brown blossom, perhaps, with a rather unpleasant scent? I dread to think what the fruit tastes like Shocked

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Post  landerloos on Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:47 pm

F. Waheedy wrote:
landerloos wrote:Faisal my friend I will take that big craptree from your hands Twisted Evil Wink Very Happy
I will get it in flower for sure in a couple of years.

Peter

All yours, Peter. When do you wanna come around to pick it up :-))

Be carefull what you say to me Faisal, you never know, one day the doorbell rings....... and I am at your place Wink

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Post  landerloos on Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:48 pm

Harleyrider wrote:
Faisal my friend I will take that big craptree from your hands

Is this some new cultivar that I was unaware of? Brown blossom, perhaps, with a rather unpleasant scent? I dread to think what the fruit tastes like Shocked
I did it on purpose you know, crap tree

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Post  wabashene on Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:58 pm

Hi Faisal,

The big one is of course a he££ of a thing but the small one will need quite a bit of work imo.

I bought one many years back - an imported air layer iirc - and apart from great flowers ( now-ish) and great apples in autumn I have a found it difficult to do anything with even after a long period of ground growing.

Doesn't seem to want to ramify and breaks readily when I try to wire it-worse than a Kiyohime Maple

This of course could be down to the particular type of malus.

Here it a few years back but hasn't changed much.

Mind you, my wife likes it coz it has flowers

What a Face

thks

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