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Post  Guest on Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:32 am

I think theese days are tough to go through, nowing how bad the situation is in Japan.

Yesterday Me and my husband decided to do something posetive anyway, and went on yamadori.
During the fall, I found a hedge near by, with two usefull trees...this is it first...I hope to collect the next one later today......I think I was very lucky, the owner gave me hes permission to dig them out...he will recive two bottles of nice redvine, for hes kindnes.
This tree had very nice surface roots.


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Post  Guest on Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:34 am

This is the tree in the pot....I may want to reduce the hight a little more.
Any suggestions?

Kind regards Yvonne



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Re: Acer Campestre, yamadori

Post  landerloos on Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:16 am

Yes I have a good suggestion, send them to me Wink
Very nice tree you dug up, cant wait to see the second.
I dug a cherry up last week will make a picture when the sun is back again.

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Post  handy mick on Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:06 am

Nice score Yvonne.
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Post  Guest on Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:13 am

Very nice find Yvonne. As for suggestions, I think your reduction is spot on for now. Field Maple have a strong habit of backbudding, so I would wait and see. The top section is a little cylindrical but when you have some new shoots to prune to, further reduction can go ahead.

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Post  Guest on Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:16 am

Hi Peter

Thanks....but I think, I keep this one...and the next too. Campestre makes nice small leaves, and I look forward to work with the tree...the next is bigger Smile.
Peter prepare to be invitet very soon, to dig up hawthorn forrestgroups....during the weekend, will I look at them, all 150....it will be a party, if they are, as I expect. I wil let you know.
Look at page 73, and 93 in the newest Bonsai Focus.....my hawthorns are born to this.



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Post  Guest on Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:24 am

Hi Mick and Will

Thanks...Good to hear, you think the same...I am hoping to be able to remowe the two stubs to the right in the future.
Right now , is the tree keept cool damp and windfree for about 10 days, then I will be looking for the buds to awake, and place it outside on windfree days.

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Re: Acer Campestre, yamadori

Post  p@scal on Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:38 pm

Hello,
Nor is it wise to put in a pot of culture greater than in a pot (bonsai)? scratch

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Re: Acer Campestre, yamadori

Post  sunip on Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:56 pm

Hello Ivonne,
Nice catch, acer campestre makes good and easy material for bonsai.
I repotted two of them yesterday, i dug them out of my hedge two seasons ago.
Here buds on them are already extending.
Good idea, that is waiting where the shoots will come, and they will come certain.
regards, Sunip;)

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Post  Rob Kempinski on Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:53 pm

Nice find Yvonne, looking forward to see what the other one looks like.

Have you been growing all those tress in that field? I've been doing some in ground growing in various spots around my yard.

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Post  Ravi Kiran on Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:32 pm

Hi Yvonne,

incase you want to reduce the height even further, you can do so as in the picture below.


The red line indicates the cut and the green one indicates the new leader.. Guess this should do it.... What do you think??

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Post  Guest on Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:04 pm

Hello Ravi. Not sure this is a good idea at this stage. Waiting for budding will help with direction and future styling. Your red cut removes movement in the tree and also gives a monumental amount of work building taper and a new top.

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Post  Ravi Kiran on Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:12 pm

Hi Will,

I fully agree with what you have said. Which is why I start off by saying "Incase you want to reduce the height even further". Actually Yvonne had also said something like "I may want to reduce the height a little more.." inher second post on this thread. Hence I suggested what I did Very Happy

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Post  Guest on Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:52 pm

Hi Smile

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Do you not like the small pot?...I do this all the time. I never loose a tree, I take very good care of my trees.

Sunip
Thanks for your information...this makes me looke even more forward to the years to come, with both my new campestres...I will send photos tomorrow of the newest, I have no more batteri in my camara now.

Rob
I have not planted theese trees.....the owner of the field planted them, and a lot of abies 20 years ago. After some years, they wanted cattle to graze the field, and all trees were removed, and the rootstump was afterwards removed completely dawn to the groundlevel....Now 5 years later the craetegus has grown up again, and is now betwen 50 - 80 cm . I expect them to be rootconnected...I will have a look very soon.
Now all the craetegus must be removed, as owner want to make a lake.
After I have taken, what I want....will I invite my danish friends to yamadoriparty...great fun.

Ravi
Thanks for your suggestion....it can be defficult to owerlook a tree on a photo...Will and my suggestion is the one, that will be working (hopefully) Smile

Kind regards Yvonne

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Post  landerloos on Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:30 pm

Cant wait Yvonne ThumbsUp ThumbsUp ThumbsUp Dance Dance Dance

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Re: Acer Campestre, yamadori

Post  Marija Hajdic on Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:22 pm

Yvonne Graubaek wrote:I think theese days are tough to go through, nowing how bad the situation is in Japan.

Yesterday Me and my husband decided to do something posetive anyway, and went on yamadori.
During the fall, I found a hedge near by, with two usefull trees...this is it first...I hope to collect the next one later today......I think I was very lucky, the owner gave me hes permission to dig them out...he will recive two bottles of nice redvine, for hes kindnes.
This tree had very nice surface roots.


I like it. It's elegant. I hope that for two bottles is nebari included. Wink

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Re: Acer Campestre, yamadori

Post  Loke Emil on Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:56 pm

Hi Yvonne

Nice find. I wonder how the root mass must have been like, since you dared reducing it to fit into such a shallow pot. You do this all the time you say, and with great success. But would you please describe how much of the root was remaining after reducing it prior to the potting? I ask this, because I have been prying around another acer campestre hedge for a possible digging and wonder how much root is needed for this species to thrive/survive.

best regards from

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Re: Acer Campestre, yamadori

Post  Guest on Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:40 am

Thanks Marija...the best bottle, is for the lowest part of the tree Smile

Loke Emil...the tree was once a hedgeplant, plantet by people, so this one had the taproot turned up. Almost all manplantet trees has that. This make them a bit easier to collect.
What I need for the tree to have, is roots all the way arround, or at least under mainbranches...all branches need to have a supportroot. You can cut off the rest of the root ,under the last supporting root. The kept roots will ned to have a few feederroots too, after that, you can cut the rest off.
The reason why, I plant this new tree in a small pot now, is because, I much better can control the tree, and it will not suffer from part owerwatering....When the mainbranches is chosen, will I place it in a bigger pot, to speed up the growth.

Kind regards Yvonne

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Post  Guest on Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:34 am

The second Campestre is not quit as nice, as the first......but we decided to dig it up anyway, because of the very nice old bark, especialy on the choosen front.
I would like to keep the tree tall, despite of the fat branch comming from the front. But I may ned to cut off the backpart, and keep the small tree, to have a OK neabari....insteadt off working for years, to kreate a better taper/neabari of the tall tree.

If the tree is seen from other sides, the neabari and taper is looking less god.
The heavyness of the forkpart, can be removed, with both designsolutions, but ofcourse with big scars.
Please...any suggestions ? Smile

Kind regards Yvonne



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Re: Acer Campestre, yamadori

Post  Guest on Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:36 am

Seen from the side



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Post  moyogijohn on Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:09 pm

Yvonne,,,such a very good find with this tree!!! I like the way you were able to pot it so quick and the pot you chose..my umble opion i would not cut this top down,,just wait for a new bud to start a new apex.. a really nice tree!!! keep posted please..take care john

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Post  Guest on Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:22 pm

Hi Moyogijohn

Many thanks...I guess you are speeking about the first tree...What do you think about the second tree.

I am not cutting any more off theese two trees now..They must be very much potbound first...next winter hopefully Smile.

Kind regards Yvonne

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Post  Tom Benda on Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:54 pm

Hi Yvonne,

Your tree and location remind me nice autumn of 2007 - I spent it on the danish island of Mon.
I still have an "A.campestre yamadori location" there Smile I want to come back.
With the second tree - I would go for the left apex together with the thin second trunk on the left side of the base.

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Post  Guest on Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:51 pm

Hi Tom Benda

Please come back to Denmark....I will be happy to show you my garden, and give a coffe....We also have a 30th. anniverseribonsaimeeting in late may, you are welcome.

I am not sure, I understand, what you want to keep...The front trunk?, and the thin branch by the neabari?...this one I keept for improoving the neabarari, It will be removed in some years.

This is one of my plans...was it yours?

Kind regards Yvonne

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Post  Tom Benda on Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:08 pm

That´s one of my big dreams, to come back. I´d like to see Mons Klimt and other sightseeings again.
I´ll let You know, if my dreams come true.
I made a virtual for You. The crown is not perfect, too bonsai-like Smile.
But You can see - what I see in Your material.

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