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Post  Anderson Almeida on Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:11 pm

Hello folks

I found this plant on a road, I thought about whether to serve
do bonsai, it has small leaves, small fruits.

Does anyone know the species and could help me with the name.



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Re: Unknown Plant

Post  Robert J. Baran on Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:38 pm

It looks to me like a pyracantha species, aka firethorn. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyracantha and http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&pq=cotoneaster&xhr=t&q=pyracantha+bonsai&cp=13&bav=on.2,or.&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&sa=X&ei=1P5zTe-PHoOCgAeE1rQ5&sqi=2&ved=0CC4QsAQ&biw=986&bih=560 .


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Re: Unknown plant

Post  JimLewis on Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:14 pm

I agree.

I have a large Pyracantha at the gate to my farm. This weekend, before the rain, 4 or 5 gazillion robins descended on the tree and cleaned it of the berries. It went from a mostly orange tree to only green in less than 2 hours.

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Re: Unknown plant

Post  David Brunner on Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:22 pm

Hello Anderson,

Given the opposite simple leaves and inferior ovary, this is certainly a species in the Myrtaceae (or Myrtle family.) There are a huge number a species native to Brazil. My guess for a genus would be Eugenia, but I dare not guess a species without flowers.

Eugenia can be very effectively used for bonsai. A related genus is the joboticaba (Myrciaria cauliflora) which is frequently used for bonsai and likely has similar cultural demands. So you might try treating this as you would a jaboticaba.

I am certain that this is not Pyracantha, which is a genus in the Rosaceae (Rose family) and would have alternate leaves with a slightly serrate margin.

I hope this is helpful,
David B.

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Re: Unknown plant

Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:25 pm

We have an invasive plant in the Florida Peninsula we call Brazilian Pepper. Could this be that plant?

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Re: Unknown plant

Post  Russell Coker on Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:39 pm

David Brunner wrote:Given the opposite simple leaves...

Yep, those opposite leaves are a dead give away that it's NOT pyracantha.

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Post  bonsaisr on Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:57 pm

Billy M. Rhodes wrote:We have an invasive plant in the Florida Peninsula we call Brazilian Pepper. Could this be that plant?
No, completely different.
Iris

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Re: Unknown plant

Post  Anderson Almeida on Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:03 am

David Brunner

After a thorough search, found the answer is even a punicifolia Eugenia,
the family of Myrtaceae,
see the link that a friend helped me find:
http://www.e-jardim.com/produto_completo.asp?IDProduto=81

I'll see if I layers showed to remove seedlings or saplings thick gauge, but if I can not, I'll start
is the same seed lol ... Laughing

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Re: Unknown plant

Post  Charles M on Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:54 am

That is definitely not a Brazilian Pepper. We have Brazilian Pepper here in California, too. They make nice bonsai. They develop a thick trunk really fast.

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