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Post  kingbean on Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:42 pm

Who is the best bonsai master/artist in the uk ?
Who is the best master/artist to have workshops with ?

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Post  JimLewis on Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:52 pm

Be VERY careful here, folks . . . don't let this one go bad. Thankfully, I can't contribute . . . but I am moving it to our "Off topic" forum.

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Post  kingbean on Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:58 pm

Hi jim I just wanted to know who would be the best person to have lessons with.

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Post  fiona on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:04 pm

Hmmmm. You are asking a question to which there is no easy answer, Kingbean (Shane?) These things are almost entirely subjective and one person's opinion will be vastly different from others. It depends on what your preferred style of learning is - e.g. do you want to learn in a group or on a one-to-one basis? Do you prefer a hand-on, a theoretical one or a mix of both? It depends on how far and how often you are prepared to travel. It also goes without saying that it depends on how much you are prepared to pay for all this. It also depends on a bit of "chemistry" between yourself and the teacher. And lastly it depends a lot on how far you want to take your learning and indeed what your basic ability is.

I think you will find plenty of bonsai people in the UK who have their own opinion of who the best artist/teacher in the UK is (and remember that might not be the same person) but few will voice it on a forum like this - in my opinion rightly so. I know what my own answer would be, but it is very much a personal choice and there's no way I'd say it on here.

I would rather recommend that you "try before you buy" and experience a number of different people in a range of situations - workshops, one-to-ones etc. That way you will get a much better idea who is best suited to you and vice versa.

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Post  Guest on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:09 pm

Different artists have different strengths. Personally I think Kevin Willson is on the money. An excellent stylist of raw material (one of the best), works very well on imported trees and his carving is to die for.

Can you pm your address again so I can send those Itoigawa cuttings.


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Post  fiona on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:32 pm

I'm sorry but I'm with Jim on this one and I'm getting very jumpy at the thought of people making recommendations.

A large part of my trepidation is because we know nothing about you, Kingbean.

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Post  kingbean on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:37 pm

What do you need to know im not putting my date of birth or address because ive heard about people
Stealing identities.

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Post  Guest on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:42 pm

find someone who styles trees how you like to see them. that way you should be satisfied with what you have on your benches. nothing worse than having to look at a tree that you thought should have been styled differently or not what you like to look at and enjoy.


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Post  fiona on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:54 pm

kingbean wrote:What do you need to know im not putting my date of birth or address because ive heard about people
Stealing identities.
Simply because if you live in Southampton there's no point in recommending a bonsai artist who lives in Aberdeen or even Glasgow (yes, there is one (at least one) in each of those places Very Happy ).

Additionally as stated in my previous post, you need to find someone who suits your ability, aspirations and more importantly your wallet.

I stand by my comment about trying a number of people before you settle on one. That way lies a bit more certainty on both of your parts.


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Post  Kev Bailey on Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:27 pm

No-one is going to steal your identity from a rough age and approximate location, which is all we ask for. You are correct to be careful though.

I agree with thoughts the thoughts expressed above. First port of call should be your local clubs. When you think you have learned all you can from them, expand your horizons with workshops at more prestigious shows etc. There are lots of opportunities, and lots of different "specialists" who work in different areas and on different styles, but it is up to you to find out who suits you best.

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Post  ybonsai on Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:35 pm

kingbean wrote:Who is the best bonsai master/artist in the uk ?
Who is the best master/artist to have workshops with ?
My opinion is you can learn from everyone.
I always try to learn from as much as masters possible,cause they have other techniques,view of bonsai,...
And you will learn from this and improve your trees by the different techniques you learn, observe and learn to know your tree and learn whats the best technique to use.

Best regards,
Yannick



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Post  JimLewis on Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:13 am

And then, there's that endless and pointless discussion about the worthwhileness of the term, "master."

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Post  sunip on Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:17 pm

Hy Kingbean,

Who is the best pupil?

regards, Sunip Wink

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Post  kingbean on Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:53 pm

Thanks to everyone I didnt mean any bad intentions just need more knowledge.
Regards Shane.

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Post  Mike Jones on Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:51 pm

Hi Shane

There are many hugely talented folks in Bonsai. I have been fortunate to meet quite a few over the years and came away from each meeting/demonstration/coffee/lunch/whatever thinking profoundly about what I had just picked up by way of knowledge. Each have their own way of doing things.

I've tried and tried and tried over a near thirty year interest in Bonsai to create something that would be on par with just one of these people; sadly I've not been able to achieve that goal, nor now will I ever - despite being retired and having time on my hands; but, I really enjoy trying though.

All I would say is, see as many as you can over the years because each one will leave you with a little bit more knowledge and perhaps even show you a different way to achieve the same goal, but with a different technique. I have several favourites, but that stays firmly with me. Not because I think it is wrong to say .... but because I like the way in which certain experts teach/demonstrate/communicate etc. That may mean something entirely different to someone else.

One such expert however, inspired me; from his book I gained much knowledge and on meeting the man I was not disappointed, no siree, not one bit.

Have a good read through those books and try if you can to meet these people. One thing all of the experts that I have been fortunate enough to meet share in common though, is they are all extremely nice folks, and only too pleased to answer questions that they have almost certainly been asked a thousand times.

By-the-way, in terms of brilliance, there are several here on this forum Very Happy No sadly, I'm not one of them. Crying or Very sad

You sound as though you have a determination, may that stay with you for all time.

Mike

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Post  kingbean on Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:04 pm

I am very determind I have just given up my hobby of mma due to injury so
I need somthing to do and I love bonsai.

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