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Post  kingbean on Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:12 pm

Does anyone have any views on styling my juniper need some urgent help?

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Post  kingbean on Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:14 pm

Smaller pic.

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Post  JimLewis on Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:24 am

I'm not sure I can suggest how to improve anything, but you have a bit of a mess in the middle of the tree, and it jumps right out at you. I'd get rid of that stumpy lower-left-hand jin, and you need to work on the roots. The jin will be easiest to fix; cut it off or make it a shorter, broken-off-looking stub. The roots might be easy, too, but I can't see them clearly enough.

I don't know what to do about the middle.

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Post  sunip on Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:19 am

Hy Kingbeam,

For the left lower yin, make it come out more horizontal and natural like Jim mentioned.
For the root work, this will be necessary but i would do that not until mid may.
For the further styling, can you give us a image of the other sides?
regards, Sunip;)

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Post  kingbean on Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:50 pm

Hello Sunip,
Ive had this tree since 2005 and have been trying to make somthing of it
But im finding it hard to grasp the artistic side of bonsai or do you think it could be the material im
Using ? here is a pic from 05.

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Post  kingbean on Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:56 pm

I have taken some pics from back and sides but cant find my camera just now so I will upload
Them later.

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Post  sunip on Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:44 pm

kingbean wrote:Hello Sunip,
Ive had this tree since 2005 and have been trying to make somthing of it
But im finding it hard to grasp the artistic side of bonsai or do you think it could be the material im
Using ? here is a pic from 05.
Hy Kingbeam,
It is not a complicated Itogawa or the elegant Kishu Hans Vleugels shows us here,
your juniper has a different character like a steady tree, and needs to be appreciated as it is
then there is potential to take him further.
But like the one from Hans (mind you 1992 till 2011), Juniper takes his time.
Seeing forward to your images.
regards, Sunip Wink

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Post  Guest on Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:22 pm

what about something like this? please excuse my rough sketch, i'm rubbish at virtuals.

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Post  Loke Emil on Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:54 pm

It was great fun, though the rather humble program "Paint" doesn't really do a nice virt... Embarassed Anyway, I hope you'll find some inspiration...




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Post  Jesse on Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:16 pm

Nice virtual Loke...a nice, realistic direction for this tree.

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Post  kingbean on Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:48 pm

Here is the other pics.The right side.

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Post  kingbean on Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:49 pm

The left side.

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Post  kingbean on Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:50 pm

The back.

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Post  Loke Emil on Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:42 pm

hm! left side as a possible new front?!

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Post  sunip on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:59 am

Loke Emil wrote:hm! left side as a possible new front?!
Hy Kingbean,
Wow whats your problem now!!
Those images are revealing something interesting.
Loke Emil did a good job there, some nice character is starting to unfold.
The backside has a good nerbari, but the right lower branch is crossing the trunk.
I prefer the left side as in the last virtual from Loke Emil.
See if you can manege something with the roots in spring.(adding some soil at the right side?)
For now you could wire some branches, at least i would try to bend the first branche to the right,
(the one where you started with that thick wire) so it is not pointing straight forward.
Take your time, it is not a styling show, you will find that after a few weeks you can bend a bit further.
The lowest yn would have to be removed in the last option of Loke Emil.
Also do not forget to pinch back the needles in the lower branches so there will be more green near to the trunk.
regards, Sunip Wink

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Post  kingbean on Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:31 pm

Thanks a lot for your time guys.
Do you think i should pot in to another pot while training the roots ?

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Post  sunip on Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:53 am

Hy Kingbean,
When you are going for the last virtual of Loke Emil, you have to turn the tree in the pot.
For the coming time the pot is good, but after realizing the further styling in a few years
you will need a different kind of pot, the tree will show you this.
I hope the roots allow you to turn the tree easily.
regards, Sunip Wink

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Post  Meg on Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:02 am

I may be way off base but here is a thought for making the back the new front
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Post  kingbean on Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:33 am

Thats not bad but the shari would be on the back what about this for the front ?

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