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Post  dave on Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:11 am




Can anyone tell me anything about this pot.Can't find anything like it on the net.

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Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:26 am

It is either a priceless Ming dynasty antique pot or a recent Chinese made pot for your local florist to sell with flowers in it.

I lean toward the latter. Does it have drainage holes? Any marks on the bottom?

Most of these had a sticker that said, "Made in China." But if the sticker came off there was no other ID.

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Post  peter krebs on Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:59 pm

Hi Bonsaidave,
unfortunately this is not an old pot.
It is mass produced, either from China or Korea. Sad

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Post  dave on Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:08 pm






Thank You for your reply.I was hoping for the priceless ming
dynasty bonsai pot.The uneven nature or twisting of the pot
I thought was representive of old firing techniques.There are no
markings on the bottom.A little frustrated that I have been
looking for years on internet checking out Korean and Chinese
celadon and have not found anything close other than
Longquan celadon.I feel better about using it,I think.Very much honored by both your replies thank you.

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Post  dave on Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:35 pm

I know about the dragons and pearls,and the doves on either sides of the pot.And the emblem on the end I believe is the imperial mark but I don't know what the emblem that looks like an insect represents.If anybody knows I would love to find out.Thanks once again.

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Post  peter krebs on Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:44 am

Hi bonsaidave,
a doves on your pot is a phoenix.
Here you can read all about the dragon and the phoenix.

http://www.bonsaipots.net/index.php?page=dragon-pots

http://www.bonsaipots.net/index.php?page=phoenix

I hope you enjoy reading

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Peter

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Post  daiviet_nguyen on Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:31 am

Hi there,

-- Please keep in mind that I could be completely wrong!

When I first saw the pot, my suspicion was that it is a Southern Vietnamese one. Seeing the texture at the bottom and drainage hole makes me a little bit more certain.

Please have a look at these:

http://forum.caycanhvietnam.com/diendan/showthread.php?t=27076
http://forum.caycanhvietnam.com/diendan/showthread.php?t=27028
http://forum.caycanhvietnam.com/diendan/showthread.php?t=26961
http://forum.caycanhvietnam.com/diendan/showthread.php?t=26832
http://forum.caycanhvietnam.com/diendan/showthread.php?t=26845
http://forum.caycanhvietnam.com/diendan/showthread.php?t=26722
http://forum.caycanhvietnam.com/diendan/showthread.php?t=26711
http://forum.caycanhvietnam.com/diendan/showthread.php?t=26592

There are no market for the above pots in the West, so they are not able to mass export; but some small hobby importers still do. There are not too many of these pots around.

The above links might be very slow at times.

Regards.

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Post  Dave Martin on Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:35 am

Would be nice to see what you have planted in it, in your pictures I can see some 'mud people' and part of a trunk with small gravel across the surface? Have you got any other pictures?

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Post  dave on Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:51 pm





chinese privet in training.

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Post  bumblebee on Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:03 am

I'm holding out for priceless Ming dynasty --- I have one just like it! Bought it on ebay for about 15.00.

Libby

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Post  dave on Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:57 am

First of all,Thank you all for your replies.What a great venue.I have been looking on the net for years and in two days on this forum I was able to satisfy my curiosity.... with the experienced help, from people from around the world.Thank you, Peter Krebs.It was in my search, that I came across your website the first time.Big fan of your work.So far Santa hasn't given me one of your pots.Korean,Vietnamese,Chinese,well I guess I still have a quest.I like the pot and it will eventually hold my flowering crab apple tree that is still in training.And Libby please........can I see a picture.....


Very Happy ave

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Re: pot identification

Post  dave on Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:14 pm



Better picture of the crazing.Love to see a picture of another
pot like this.Libby I believe you got a nice deal at $15 even
for a new pot of this size.I got mine at the thrift store for $1.And
still hopeing someone may be able to help me with the insect
like impression.I believe it shows up in some marks as one of the
many characters of that mark,but not alone.

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Post  bumblebee on Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:59 pm

Dave,

One of these days I'm going to break down and learn how to post pictures on the computer. My son will teach me one of these days. And when I know how, I will be a picture posting fool!

Libby

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Post  dave on Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:58 am

bumblebee wrote:Dave,

One of these days I'm going to break down and learn how to post pictures on the computer. My son will teach me one of these days. And when I know how, I will be a picture posting fool!

Libby



I certainly understand that.Lucky you....I wish I had kids at home to show me how to use all this new fangled stuff.I have learn't what I have through the school of hard knocks.....but who has the time.Thanks Libby.

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Post  dave on Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:26 am

The mystery ends.The last symbol I was looking for the meaning of, is the shou symbol for health and longevity.Thanks everybody for your help. cheers

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