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Post  Salva Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:20 pm

Hello my name is Salva, my written english is poor, for this reason the explanations are short.
This is a small shimpaku that I bought last year in the green club ( Tokio).
I have decided to remodel it ,changing the angle of planted and the pot.


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Post  Paul Landis Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:19 pm

Nice tree!!!! Thanks for sharing it.
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Post  Hans Vleugels Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:04 pm

Excellent restyling... I like it a lot.
Keep up the good work!

Greetings from Belgium,
Hans
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Post  Kev Bailey Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:32 pm

The restyled tree and your written english are almost perfect. Thanks for posting.
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Post  Will Heath Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:06 am

Excellent restyle.

Personally, I do not like the new pot, it has too much visual weight and steals the eye from the tree.




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Post  Salva Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:02 pm

Thanks Paul,hv66,Kev Bailey and Will for yours commentaries.
I agree with you Will Heath with the topic of the pot, I have tried to explain in another Spanish web the choice of this pot, and the conclusion is that sometimes is imposible fine the perfect pot. For this reason this pot isn't the definitive one I will continue searching.
This one is my first post in IBC, but for several years I read this incredible web. In the next days i try to show you more works and my trees.
Regards Salva
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Post  Rob Addonizio Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:39 pm

Great restyle; nice detail. Cool

On your pot choice, are you considering another square pot, or perhaps a circle or oval?
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Post  Salva Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:06 pm

Thank you Rob, in reference to your question my idea is a square pot less weighed visually

More or less this is one of the possible idea
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Post  Kev Bailey Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:05 pm

Once the foliage fills in a little, this pot will appear less heavy. If it is still not the perfect pot, something like the one above would do very nicely.
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Post  John Quinn Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:09 pm

Here's a quickie...

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Post  Salva Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:18 pm

Thank you John for the photomontage ,I see the most slight set with this pot.
Thank you for your time
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Post  Wm Tom Davis Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:03 am

I too like what you've done with this tree.

Regarding the pots shown, I was thinking of something more shallow and in keeping with the round shape of the nice jin.

Please excuse my liberty taking in using your picture and playing with it some, but this is what I was thinking of regarding a pot.

My apologies in that I accidentally erased the photo from photobucket.com and I don't have a copy to post.


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Post  John Quinn Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:33 am

I like the shape and finish but it's probably a bit too small regarding both horticultural and aesthetic considerations.
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Post  Wm Tom Davis Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:47 am

My redo was with a bit larger pot Tokoname pot from Bonsaimonk.com
Again apologies for erasing the photos...


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Post  Will Heath Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:48 am

Hard tree to pot....I do not like the color in this one, but the style appeals to me....it goes well with the winged dragon hidden in the tree, almost like the dragon is hatching from the egg below it and is taking flight.

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Pot from http://bonsaipotsuk.com/ViewItem.php?ItemID=561
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Post  Salva Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:37 am

Hello again friends.I am grateful for your work to them with the photographies and the pots.
Tom I believe that on this pot I cannot plant it, because it's root is deep, It is impossible to cultivate this tree in this pot.
And With the pot that Will H. shows I believe that visually there is an imbalance.
I believe that it has to be a pot of regular forms to balance the branch kengai of the left side with the visual weight of the jin on the right
I try to explain my idea.
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Post  Will Heath Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:47 am

The more we try, the more I am liking your choice better and as mentioned, the foliage filling out a bit will help with the visual weight.
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Post  Chris Cochrane Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:40 pm

Hi Salva... Thanks for sharing. I'm not the artist that many are here, but I'm very interested in display. It is really beautiful with your deeper potting and detailing!

The trunk placement in the pot tells me you see it flowing visually toward-the-right, and I accept it as your impression. Perhaps, you changed the visual movement of this tree from flowing toward-the-right to flowing toward-the-left by lowering the limb on the left below the pot rim.

If treating the tree as a semi-cascade, you might consider turning it a bit clockwise so that the extending branch can be viewed from the present side as extending leftward or from the directly opposite side as extending rightward. That is a bonus for the branch below the pot's rim-- to be appreciated from two opposite fronts.
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Post  Erik Križovenský Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:21 pm

...my idea, thanks...[img]My trees.....Salva Rekons12[/img]
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Post  Pedro G C Almeida Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:02 am

Erik, I really like your idea. If the tree were mine and the roots permited, I would go for it.

Regards,
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Post  Joe Alansalon Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:48 am

Very nice Shohin material. Your second choice of the new pot (plain)
would be nice or you may consider something like an octagonal type of pot.

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Post  Salva Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:43 pm

Erik thank you for your idea, I believe that it is possible to plant the tree like that.

Joe the octogonal pot It was foreseen as an option, But I believe that this pot was too strong.

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Post  guy ward Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:26 am

nice tree-the curly jin or dead wood seems alien to the character of the tree-almost the result of un-natural torture-removing it would change its unique character but would look more natural(opinion only)

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Post  Salva Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:27 pm

Always it is interesting to read your opinions. For this reason I like this web, Different points of view... that give me new ideas

Thanks and regards....Salva
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Post  TpaBayFlyFisher Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:28 pm

I like this tree very much. But, I wonder if removing the lower portion of the left-hand banch might make the driftwood more the focus of the tree and at the same time solve the pot issue.

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