Carmona bonsai

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Carmona bonsai

Post  Guest on Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:09 pm

Heeeey

A few months ago I got a bonsai as a present,
I really liked it at first but then it lost all its leaves.
I tryed to look on the internet why this had happend
and saw that bonsai is way bigger than I thought and started
to like bonsai more.

I now have a Carmona and an Chinese Elm (really basic for a beginner I noticed
on the different websites I visited)

I tryed to style my Elm but it didnt really turned out
nice hehe

My question is if someone has an idea what i should do with
the Carmona, i want to style it, but i'm a little afraid i'll mess up
again!

I like the broom style, but if someone has better ideas for it i really would like to hear them:)
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Re: Carmona bonsai

Post  Neil Jaeger on Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:21 pm

I dont have alot of experince either, but i know you should NOT style a tree that is not healthy. If it is dormant than that is another story for some trees. Right now i would not put that kind of stress on such a young tree, i would just let it grow for a few years. Here is a site with some info http://www.bonsai4me.com/SpeciesGuide/Carmona.html.

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Re: Carmona bonsai

Post  Ryan on Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:27 pm

Styling probably wasn't what made it drop it's leaves. The soil could very well have caused that. The soil looks very peaty and may be holding too much water. You do keep the Chinese Elm outdoors right?

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Re: Carmona bonsai

Post  Guest on Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:14 pm

The Chinese Elm is inside.. it lost a lot of leaves last month (Almost all) but
it was also growing new shoots! I read that a chinese elm should be
outside in the winter, but not when there are new small leaves growing.

Guess I should keep it inside now, its almost freezing here in holland so maybe
the tree would die if I put it outside?!Smile
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I repot the Carmona a few weaks ago, in bonsaisoil that was bought at a gardencenter.
The carmona is growing a lot of new leaves now so i think it just startled
when it was suddenly moved to my room.Smile

and Neil you are right, on the site u send me there is information about restyling and
its not adviced to do this when the tree is weak:)

Thnx for the replies Ryan and Neil !Very Happy

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Carmona Bonsai (Actually Chinese elm)

Post  bonsaisr on Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:50 pm

You should be discussing your Chinese elm in a separate thread.
Here is what I wrote elsewhere:
<<DO NOT BRING THEM INDOORS. DESPITE WIDESPREAD BELIEF, ELMS ARE NOT INDOOR TREES. The poor things are trying to go dormant. Leave them outdoors until night temperatures are below freezing. Then put them in a protected COLD location for the winter. They should be where the temperature goes from a little below freezing to not more than 45 F, 7.2 C. They should not be growing new leaves.
I happen to have a corkbark elm prebonsai. Right now, in Zone 5, it is in the ground under a rose cone (a thick Styrofoam protector).>>
It may be too late to put your elm outdoors, but don't keep it at room temperature. Put it in a location as cold as possible but just above freezing. As long as it has leaves it will need some light.
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Re: Carmona bonsai

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:12 pm

Just to tease Ms. Iris,

so what do I do with night temperatures of above 65 deg.F and my elms are dormant - Laughing Laughing
and I have had some of these varieties since 1980 or so.
Catlin,
Seiju,
Yatsubusa,
and 3 or 5 different types of imported Southern Chinese Elms,
with new types showing up on cut roots that have resprouted.

Stay Well.
Mischievous Khaimraj

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Carmona Bonsai (Actually Chinese elm)

Post  bonsaisr on Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:31 pm

Khaimraj Seepersad wrote:
so what do I do with night temperatures of above 65 deg.F and my elms are dormant - Laughing Laughing
and I have had some of these varieties since 1980 or so.
You will not get a rise out of me. As I say very often, growing bonsai in the North is completely different from growing them in the tropics. Your elms are outdoors and are acclimated to your conditions. Your climate is not like growing the same species indoors around here.
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