Yamadori Douglas Fir in training
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Yamadori Douglas Fir in training
Here is a Yamadori Douglas Fir that I found on BaldBonsaiGuy website and I loved it. It has great trunk movement, lots of branches to work on, and really nice taper (with base 2" wide and height around 8.5"):

And here is the same tree after some initial wiring and some leggy growth removed.

The future plan is to let the foliage fill in. Let me know what you guys think.
Thanks,
AH

And here is the same tree after some initial wiring and some leggy growth removed.

The future plan is to let the foliage fill in. Let me know what you guys think.
Thanks,
AH
Guest- Guest
Re: Yamadori Douglas Fir in training
Yesss! Another fir fan!
It's quite hard to distinguish the finer points of the tree because the photo is quite dark. It looks like a good start so far.
There is a really good article on fir and spruce care somewhere on bonsai4me, but here has what's helped me:
Give it a balanced fertiliser in the spring once the buds start to extend. Pinch back the tips of the new growth in late spring, up to 1/2 off strong growth and 1/3 off medium growth. Weak growth or buds that are slow to pop should be left alone.
Once the needles have hardened off in summer and turn the same colour as the older growth, give the plant some fertiliser with a higher proportion of nitrogen. Give it a bright, airy spot but don't let it dry out completely in the summer.
In the autumn/fall, firs will set groups of 3 buds on the tips of strong branches, remove the strongest bud to leave 2 weaker buds.
On the tips of medium branches, you will see groups of 3 smaller buds. Remove the weakest bud on those branches.
Weak branches will only have 1 or 2 small buds on the tips. Leave them alone! Don't wire weak branches either
In a couple of seasons you can then look at pruning it again.
Cheers
It's quite hard to distinguish the finer points of the tree because the photo is quite dark. It looks like a good start so far.
There is a really good article on fir and spruce care somewhere on bonsai4me, but here has what's helped me:
Give it a balanced fertiliser in the spring once the buds start to extend. Pinch back the tips of the new growth in late spring, up to 1/2 off strong growth and 1/3 off medium growth. Weak growth or buds that are slow to pop should be left alone.
Once the needles have hardened off in summer and turn the same colour as the older growth, give the plant some fertiliser with a higher proportion of nitrogen. Give it a bright, airy spot but don't let it dry out completely in the summer.
In the autumn/fall, firs will set groups of 3 buds on the tips of strong branches, remove the strongest bud to leave 2 weaker buds.
On the tips of medium branches, you will see groups of 3 smaller buds. Remove the weakest bud on those branches.
Weak branches will only have 1 or 2 small buds on the tips. Leave them alone! Don't wire weak branches either
In a couple of seasons you can then look at pruning it again.
Cheers
RichLewis- Member
Re: Yamadori Douglas Fir in training
Sorry for the picture quality. The picture was taken in the winter quarters so there was not much light around. I will take another picture in spring when it is outside.
Thanks for the information. I found very basic information on Douglas Fir but not much online. I think Douglas Fir has some true potential as a species for bonsai, and I am really excited about this tree's future.
Thanks,
AH
Thanks for the information. I found very basic information on Douglas Fir but not much online. I think Douglas Fir has some true potential as a species for bonsai, and I am really excited about this tree's future.
Thanks,
AH
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Re: Yamadori Douglas Fir in training
Here you go:
All Abies (fir) have the same care requirements. Here's some great info:
http://www.bonsai4me.com/SpeciesGuide/Abies.html
Pruning Picea (spruce) is the same for fir. Spruce and firs are very closely related in their care requirements:
http://www.bonsai4me.com/AdvTech/ATPiceaPruningstylingandwiring.htm
Where do you live? Firs should be outside at all times. They actually need a few weeks of freezing temps to go fully dormant and prepare for next year.
All Abies (fir) have the same care requirements. Here's some great info:
http://www.bonsai4me.com/SpeciesGuide/Abies.html
Pruning Picea (spruce) is the same for fir. Spruce and firs are very closely related in their care requirements:
http://www.bonsai4me.com/AdvTech/ATPiceaPruningstylingandwiring.htm
Where do you live? Firs should be outside at all times. They actually need a few weeks of freezing temps to go fully dormant and prepare for next year.
RichLewis- Member
Re: Yamadori Douglas Fir in training
Thanks for the links....
However, Douglas Fir is not a true Fir (Abies sp.). I think common sense (and some growth observation) should be the best knowledge that I can apply. After all, masters like Kimura didn't learn bonsai cultivation from books, internet or clubs.
I live in a southwest suburb of Chicago and winter temperatures occasionally go below -5F for a couple weeks in a year. My winter quarters maintain a stable temperature of between 30F to 35F. There is also some ventilation that enters the cold house which according to Yoji Yoshimura, is essential during dormancy.
Thanks,
Aman
However, Douglas Fir is not a true Fir (Abies sp.). I think common sense (and some growth observation) should be the best knowledge that I can apply. After all, masters like Kimura didn't learn bonsai cultivation from books, internet or clubs.
I live in a southwest suburb of Chicago and winter temperatures occasionally go below -5F for a couple weeks in a year. My winter quarters maintain a stable temperature of between 30F to 35F. There is also some ventilation that enters the cold house which according to Yoji Yoshimura, is essential during dormancy.
Thanks,
Aman
Guest- Guest
Re: Yamadori Douglas Fir in training
Hm!
In my humble opinion I would let the first branch grow with the intend to jinn it at a later point. The same I would do with the third branch on the right (in the photo/right side of the tree). And lastly I would lower the present apex with the intend to create a flat cone apex: to do so I would bend the present apex down to the right and let the second last shot on the left become the new apex - given that the present front is chosen for the future development. I hope this makes sense to you, sinse I am running out of battery power...
In my humble opinion I would let the first branch grow with the intend to jinn it at a later point. The same I would do with the third branch on the right (in the photo/right side of the tree). And lastly I would lower the present apex with the intend to create a flat cone apex: to do so I would bend the present apex down to the right and let the second last shot on the left become the new apex - given that the present front is chosen for the future development. I hope this makes sense to you, sinse I am running out of battery power...

Loke Emil- Member
Re: Yamadori Douglas Fir in training
I was doodling with the images of this Douglas Fir, and I realized that the top portion of the tree (above the first branch) abruptly changes taper, so I decided to continue the trunk line along the first branch in a semi-cascade style.
Also, the old plated bark is more focal now that the top portion will most probably be jinned.

Let me know what you think. You can see some of the new foliage as a result from the chop.
- S
Also, the old plated bark is more focal now that the top portion will most probably be jinned.

Let me know what you think. You can see some of the new foliage as a result from the chop.
- S

suburbia- Member
Re: Yamadori Douglas Fir in training
I like it. Really makes the tree more compact and visually interesting. Highlights the bark which on doug firs can actually get quite platey and nice. I would fertilize a little less heavily until the needles have hardened off.
Benjamin- Member
Re: Yamadori Douglas Fir in training
I will reduce the fertilizer (though it is slow-release pellets). Does someone know how well Douglas Fir backbuds?
Here is the virtual I have in mind.

- S
Here is the virtual I have in mind.

- S

suburbia- Member
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