Before and after - thanks to the inspiration for three days.

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Post  Pavel Slovák on Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:01 pm

Hi all.
I was inspired by friend Tony Tickel solution. Ispirace in a post here on another visit to Tony. Thanks to help my father and son Jacob, the work of two days, the material one day.The motto is - Everything for the tree. Very Happy Very Happy

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more pict.:http://www.bonsaivigi.cz/fotoalbum/nezarazene/foliovnik-s-teplym-luzkem-pro-yamadori---2010

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Post  Harleyrider on Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:09 pm

Very nice job, Pavel.

Will you be adding a large sacrificial altar soon?

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Post  Pavel Slovák on Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:19 pm

Hi Steve

thank you very much for very nice coment. Very Happy

Altar? - Maybe Wink Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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Post  Rob Kempinski on Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:14 pm

Nice project based on good motivation. The heated root zone should help your collected trees. I am getting ready to do a similar project myself. Good luck with it.


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Post  Tony on Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:40 pm

Hi Pavel, this looks good.

I am happy to say that a combination of:
A) collecting the yamadori at the optimum time
B) securing as much root as possible
C) establishing the tree in the best way possible (under soil heating) and overhead misting

Ensures I get at least a 90% success rate, even with trees that have only a small amount of root.

Note: one thing you did not see was that I pack styrene packing chips around the collected trees boxes to retain heat.



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Post  Pavel Slovák on Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:57 pm

Hi Rob, thank you very much for nice replies. Very Happy

Hi Tony, thank you for nice coment and big inspirations . ThumbsUp I hesitated a long time. Embarassed

But - Today I almost finished the whole project. He made my cold bed (+ agroperlit bark mulch) and the rest of the floor. Installed a thermometer and hygrometer. Remains light and the entrance floor. Very Happy Very Happy

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Post  Pavel Slovák on Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:22 pm

Hi all.

Done. Very Happy





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Post  Guest on Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:36 pm

Love the setup Pavel. Hope it helps your survival rates.

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Post  Pavel Slovák on Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:54 pm

Hi Will

Thank you for the nice comment. I also hope that it will benefit the trees. We are pretty hard and cold enough to snow. So just for the store through the winter period is certainly very good. Next time shows. Very Happy Very Happy Wink

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Post  Pol Karpenkov on Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:53 pm

Hello, Pavel, excellent work. I have a question. Why you don't use polycarbonate for a roof of a hothouse?

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Post  Pavel Slovák on Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:23 pm

Hi Pol

thanks for the compliment. Very Happy
Polycarbonate greenhouse is time-consuming to implement. In the winter I did not. Moreover, it is very costly. In the future, do I have a very good area where you want to realize their dreams. Now it still can not. Wink

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Post  NeilDellinger on Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:19 am

Question...

Is simply setting the tree atop the heated sand enough to heat entire root zone? Wouldnt mulching up higher on the container be more beneficial?

Just curious. Great idea though.

Thanks,
Neil

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Post  Pavel Slovák on Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:54 am

Hi Neil

For me certainly only mulch not reach such temperatures. Outside temperature reaches -20 to - 25 ° C and a lot of snow. A heated bed is designed mainly for autumn Yamadori. Important is the temperature above freezing and the humidity. For me it probably will be on the bed around 5 ° C. Getting everything measured, and if interested, I will inform you. Very Happy

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Post  Lee Kennedy on Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:15 pm

Love it Pavel,you've got me thinking about addind a cold bed to mine great idea!

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Post  Pavel Slovák on Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:14 pm

Hi Lee

thank you for your nice coment. I hope that everything will work well. Very Happy

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Post  NeilDellinger on Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:21 pm

Thanks for the response and inspiration Pavel. That is very cold! We sometimes reach similar temperatures in Chicago land area. If your heated bed keeps your roots at 41 degrees, that is excellent.

Questions for Pavel & others on the forum:
At these low outside temperatures, and higher root temperatures, how essential is light for the collected trees?

Could this be installed on top of a concrete patio?

Can someone post a link for me to the URL in which Tony et al describe in more detail how they built these? I do recall seeing one some time ago.

Neil


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Post  Pavel Slovák on Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:23 pm

Hi all

Today I worked control after winter. Heating the soil worked great. Very, very old Yamadori pine were collected in autumn 2010. The photo new roots grow through the bottom of the sand. Some roots are long 8cm.

Gretings Pavel




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Post  Ian Young on Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:38 pm

WOW Pavel, happy days! I'm sure you're delighted with the results. Worth all that hard work Very Happy

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Post  Tony on Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:21 pm

Pavel Slovák wrote: Some roots are long 8cm.

A happy day indeed. I told you that the heating bed would work wonders for your yamadori... I keep my trees on the bed until May/June

regards

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