Pinus: is this one suitable for a bonsai yamadori??

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Pinus: is this one suitable for a bonsai yamadori??

Post  capo_regime on Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:33 am

hello all!!

Near my home there is an old quarry where i found a nice pinus. However I don't know what species it is neither if it is suitable for a bonsai. I'm showing you some pictures of it, please help me identifying the species and give me some advice how i should proceed: make an yamadori or let the tree in the place.









Note: the tree has about 1 m of height

Thanx

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Re: Pinus: is this one suitable for a bonsai yamadori??

Post  AlainK on Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:15 am

It might be a scots pine (pinus sylvestris, pin sylvestre in French).

But indicating your location would help : for instance, I live near orléans, so if I had taken the picture, I would be 100% sure it is not a mugo pine. But if you live in the Alps, it could be a mugo pine too.

I'd say pinus sylvestris. A close-up of the candles would help.

And anyway, I'd say it's too late this year to collect it, although the pictures are not very clear, I think the candles are too developed now to uproot it. And be careful not to fall down the slope!

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Re: Pinus: is this one suitable for a bonsai yamadori??

Post  capo_regime on Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:43 am

The picture is from Portugal....

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Re: Pinus: is this one suitable for a bonsai yamadori??

Post  AlainK on Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:59 pm

...then it may be pinus pinaster (maritime pine).

You can try this reference site : http://www.conifers.org/

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Pine Yamidori

Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:46 pm

Pines can be collected and be great Bonsai, but they can be difficult to collect and keep alive, especially from a rocky location. They will tend to have few and very widely dispersed roots, it is difficult to get enough roots to keep the tree alive. Collecting would best be done with help from an experienced collector and I suspect it would need to be more the dormant season. If that is a recent picture and there is still snow on the ground then maybe, but I notice fairly long candles (new growth) and this would indicated the tree is not dormant. If you can, I would wait until next winter. Here in Central Florida collecting season is early Jan.

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Re: Pinus: is this one suitable for a bonsai yamadori??

Post  capo_regime on Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:33 am

Well, thanx for helping me....

I will leave the yamadori for the next year however I still don't know what species it is and if it is suitable for bonsai. The tree is hardly entrenched in the rock, with some soil around it and it seems that will be an hard work to get it. About the species i think it could be a Pinus pinea, is it a good species for a bonsai??

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Re: Pinus: is this one suitable for a bonsai yamadori??

Post  AlainK on Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:09 am

If it is Pinus pinea, it is very rarely used as bonsai material : the needles are very long and very difficult to reduce.

I suppose this is not ans isolated specimen: if there are similar trees around, why not take a branch with buds and if you can find any, cones. bring them to a local garden center or tree nursery and ask a specialist so you can be sure of the species.

And yes, it needs experience to collect trees from the wild, especially in such conditions.

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