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Post  Guest on Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:22 am

Hi IBC.
these are some of my other form of bonsai i'm playing with.

adopted from the other style with some twist here and there...just for fun.

the first one is my favorite. the trunk is from literati but the canopy is not.
what style shall I call this one?





the second one is for Todd...my pregnant dragon.
this tree was saved from slash and burned forest...i didnt removed the burned woods, i like the added character.



the lightning rod...canopy for clouds.



the literati with weeping leaves styled canopy. I haven't styled it yet.



below is my multiple tree in one



this is the reason why it is a multiple tree becoming one... around a dozen ficus combined by now to be one tree.




regards,
jun




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Post  moyogijohn on Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:08 pm

JUN,,These Trees are really different from what we see from you !!!! HOW the preganet one lived to leaf again I just can not belive..I really like the ficus with the strong looking trunk...take care john

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Post  Guest on Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:24 pm

Thanks John.
..im just curious on how the trees would look like if I create them in a different way. yes the pregnant tree is a tough customer, imagined a tree burned that way then still survive and thrive...it always reminds on how nature recreate itself no matter how men deliberately devastate it.
I planned to clasped and fused up to a hundred tree into one ficus tree...man that would be one massive trunk.

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Post  moyogijohn on Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:37 pm

JUN,,When you fuse the ficus I WANT to see them!! when is this going to happen? i guess anytime you want too..you lucky man...take care john

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Post  Ravi Kiran on Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:02 pm

Hi Jun,

Some very very interesting trees indeed. Here is my humble take on them.

The first one - Literati is a great one with the one. The canopy compliments the tree perfectly. I have absolutely no doubts about that. What I do find a bit out of place is the second branch/ areal root ( I am not sure what it is) which I have highlighted in the pic below



I think the tree would look much better without this branch.

The pregnant dragon has an amazing trunkline. I am sure you are working on the branch ramification and the leaf size reduction.

Likewise the lightning rod is amazing. Superb trunkline which justifies the name of lightning rod. I am sure the canopies would get refined over time.

The weeping williow literati is great one too. I have also styled one of my trees (pic below) in this style. Sure the tree is under training but the finished one would have all the branches drooping and preferably touching the ground. Never thought another person would attempt a blend of literati and weeping willow style. Glad you did.



A dozen trees being fused is a great one too. As a coincidence I too have done a similar one. There were a dozen when I started off and with time I have lost one tree. The pic is below and yes the tree needs refinement



Do let me know your thoughts on what I've said

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Post  Guest on Sat Oct 30, 2010 3:07 pm

Ravi,
thanks.
the one you highlighted is actually root. I cannot remove it yet unless I am sure on the possible effect of removing it. I am planning to transfer the tree in my next repot in an elongated slab and the tree slightly bended down. my final vision of the composition illustrated below. the extra root still part of the composition.




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Post  Guest on Sat Oct 30, 2010 3:13 pm

your trees are looking good too.

my suggestion on your trees, if you wont mind-
for the literati, if you can still bend some part of the trunk to give it more emotion it would be good.

for the merging ficus, play a bit with the trunk height and girt in combining your trees to attain a more natural impact.

regards,
jun

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Post  littleart-fx on Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:34 pm

Hi! Jun,

Make sure you get tapper right on the first tree,....some nice carving to do!
The air root i am sure you can remove in time!

The "pregnant dragon".....i like it! did it bare yet? Wink

The third does remind me of a tree i got,....witch did not make it, like it as wel!

How do you call the style,....does it matter....balance in sight and growth....somwhere you share some keen eye cyclops

Greets from Holland where trees like that way heavier than that (avatar).....

Machiel

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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:44 am

Thanks michiel!

I am not intending to get any taper on the first tree, as long , like you said, I can get a balanced look on that composition it would be fine with me...somethin more unique if the taper "rule" is ignored.

with regards to the avatar its just the twig. I have removed the main trunk and branch out of the path...with bare hands. (just kidding) Cool

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Post  Ravi Kiran on Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:44 am

Hi Jun,

Thanks for the comments. Sure do appreciate them and hopefully over time will incorporate them. Coming to giving the trunk of the literati some movement and emotion, well since I have had the tree the trunk has been like this and was also not in a position that I could try twisting and bending. Any thoughts as to how to do it?? While I agree completely with you on the need to bend and twist the trunk am at a loss as how to go about it.. Do let me know...

On your Pregnant Dragon how do you plan to reduce the leaf size... any thoughts???

Ravi

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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:04 am

Ravi,
Im not sure if it is ok to answer this here or a separate post in the question section...
though I am not familiar with your plant specie or how much bending it could take and the most number of hours/days it could take without water.

if it were my tree...since it seems to be bendable still. this is one of my tough tested procedure.( if you have the guts and can take the chances)...
1. I bend 10mm or 12mm diameter deformed bar (the one used in construction) than the trunk. because this iron bar got the texture needed, according to the form/sway i want, then press it hard under the soil along side the tree.
2. I wrap the tree trunk with abaca/ or banana fiber tightly to protect the bark.
3. then position/tie the trunk tightly to the bended iron rod shape, then wrap it again with abaca rope starting from the bottom. the abaca rope wrap around the trunk would help much to avoid breaking of the trunk.

4. and oh... I dehydrated my trees for this procedure, with out water for 24 to 36 hours. a dehydrated tree will have a bigger chance of survival against breakage.
note to all :this is my personal procedure, and not recommended to other type of trees.


...or you could try a much simple procedure of putting several guy wire on different portion of the branches and anchored it to the pot. but this procedure got a limited bends for the trunk.

regards,
jun


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Post  Todd Ellis on Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:36 pm

Jun, all of these trees show promise for unique bonsai. I like the dragon. Is it rooted on both sides? I love the foliage "head", it looks like antler/horns and gives the tree a cartoon quality! I don't know the species of your literati. Can the top be carved to enhance the taper? The weeping literati is very graceful. With regards to its foliage, "less is more". Best, Todd P.S. I plan to post a pic of my Octopus soon.

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Post  Todd Ellis on Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:23 pm

Here is the Octopus and a couple of others. The Octopus needs more lower branching so I can create legs and tectacles. I have thoughts about planting this on the "right" coral rock to suggest the beast sitting on the rock waiting for its next dinner. The Dragon is hard to really see yet. I plan to grow foliage pads for a while and wire some more curves. I am thinking about planting this on a stone with a cave. The Trident Maple is an exposed root and I'm still trying to decide where to grow branches. This is a cutting that I started approx 10 years ago (I think). I will smooth (carve) the cuts and just let it grow. Suggestions or comments?
Todd

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Trident

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Post  Guest on Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:27 am

hey Todd!

cant open your photos... is it my mcbook or the posting?

regards,
jun scratch

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Post  Guest on Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:35 am

oh there they are! probably the signal on the net.

very nice and different trees Todd.

I like the octopus. one suggestion if I may, you can bend the upper branches downward by now to create the tentacles for the mollusc.

the dragon seems to be doing good too.

have fun with your trees.

regards,
jun Smile

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Post  Todd Ellis on Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:43 am

I'll try that Jun, thanks!

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