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Post  Guest on Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:02 pm

I was working in a churchyard about a month ago and spotted 2 Box trees on a huge Rabbit warren, in a derelict corner of the church grounds. I asked if I could have them and gained permision to collect. They were quite tall and had a small amount of buds on the trunk. I thought it safe to cut back the branches pretty hard.

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Post  Guest on Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:05 pm

The other side and quite possibly the front is covered in small burrs. I think they are very old.

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Post  Guest on Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:12 pm

The second one.

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Post  Guest on Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:18 pm

Really good bark quality. It was suggested to me to dig them up when in flower, which I presume is Spring time. I have never collected Box before and would apreciate advice on collecting times and aftercare.

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Post  bonsaisr on Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:36 pm

Did you get permission from the ent or naiad or whoever lives in that hole?
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Post  Guest on Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:59 am

bonsaisr wrote:Did you get permission from the ent or naiad or whoever lives in that hole?
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I did knock very quietly but there was no answer. I also left a small piece of Rhubarb crumble from my lunchbox. Fingers crossed eh?

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Post  Guest on Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:11 am

Has anyone lifted Box this side of the year, or should I wait for the Spring?

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Post  Mike Jones on Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:46 pm

Will, they are hugely resilient. if you can get a large enough root mass and keep it tucked up nicely through winter it should really be fine.

Some years ago we dug up a few that were scheduled for the knackers yard, all were removed in Septober which was probably a bit too early, but they all survived.

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Post  Guest on Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:13 pm

Thanks Mike. These 2 are growing in deep shade and quite sandy soil. I htought if they were collected soon, they will have the chance of putting on new root before the worst weather comes.

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Post  Mike Jones on Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:17 pm

will baddeley wrote:Thanks Mike. These 2 are growing in deep shade and quite sandy soil. I htought if they were collected soon, they will have the chance of putting on new root before the worst weather comes.

It is a possibility Will, although new growth down under will be at best very minimal. I suppose it depends greatly on when the frosts arrive. do you use a Superthrive or equivalent when potting into a box or container? I have no scientific evidence to support but it works for me. Then again I have always done it so have nothing to compare too.

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Post  Guest on Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:36 pm

I remember reading somewhere, that root growth continues, even in dormant trees, above atemperature of 9 degrees centigrade. I dont use a root stimulant with collected trees and have a good success rate. Thanks for your help. Very Happy

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Post  Kev Bailey on Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:40 pm

I've lifted lots of box bushes that I'd grown in the ground for thickening for about ten years. They all survived fairly dramatic root reduction and boxing up in spring. Can't see any reason why they wouldn't survive lifting in late autumn with some winter protection.

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Post  Mike Jones on Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:46 pm

will baddeley wrote:I remember reading somewhere, that root growth continues, even in dormant trees, above atemperature of 9 degrees centigrade. I dont use a root stimulant with collected trees and have a good success rate. Thanks for your help. Very Happy

Below 9C is spot-on Will.

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Post  Guest on Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:51 pm

Thanks Kev. I'm not due back there for a couple of weeks. Plenty of time to brush the cobwebs off my spade for the first collect in Autumn. cheers Rolling Eyes

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Post  Seth Ellwood on Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:51 pm

Will those are some fantastic specimens good luck with collecting hope all goes well.

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Post  Guest on Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:55 pm

Thanks Seth. Will post some pics when I lift them Very Happy

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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:33 pm

5 hours to dig the first one up. It was very close to a Sycamore and both trees roots were tangled together.

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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:37 pm

Bagged and taped, I left plenty of soil on as it wouldn't be potted until today.

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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:40 pm

Hole backfilled and tree ready for the van.

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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:45 pm

I had to put it in the largest pot I could find. Planted in a mix of pumice,Acadama and sifted Pine bark. It looks a lot bigger now I've got it home.

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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:50 pm

I have left the 2 trunks/branches long for now. This will need some serious carving in the future, so Im giving myself plenty of options.

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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:53 pm

Buds are popping everywhere on the trunk. Have placed the tree in a sheltered part of the garden for the Winter.

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Post  Kev Bailey on Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:58 pm

Excellent lift Will. That is going to be one huge carving project!

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Post  Guest on Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:47 pm

Thanks Kev. I'm really looking forward to carving this one. With such hard and close grained wood you can get some very good detail. Couple of years to go though.

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