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Post  420trader Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:16 am

Hey everyone! I'm new to bonsai and also new to the forums. I started reading up on bonsai after visiting the "Spirited Garden" in Jeju Island, South Korea (if you haven't heard of it, definitely check it out)

[url=eng.spiritedgarden.com]eng.spiritedgarden.com[/url]

Here are some pictures of my tree. I believe it's an Ulmus Parvifolia (Chinese/Lacebark Elm) but it has tiny, tiny leaves. I bought this in Korea and was given the Korean name. Is there a variation of the name Chinese Elm with tiny leaves? Or it's the same plant?

Glad to be on board IBC and look forward to learning more. Any tips or comments are more than welcome!

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(I read the sticky on posting pictures; sorry I didn't post close ups of the trunk, branches or leaves. I can later on if anybody wants to them)

EDIT: I just saw how huge the pictures were. These pictures are smaller versions of the original. If you'd like to see the images enlarged, visit my blog and click on the images for the full picture - sorry about that:

http://420trader.net/?p=470


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Post  Billy M. Rhodes Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:48 am

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Post  420trader Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:25 am

Thank you! Very Happy

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Post  Guest Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:52 pm

Hi.

i dont think its a chinese elm...or any elm at all. not so sure though, cant see the leaves detail.
a warm welcome to you!

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Post  420trader Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:05 pm

jun wrote:Hi.

i dont think its a chinese elm...or any elm at all. not so sure though, cant see the leaves detail.
a warm welcome to you!

Regards,
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Thank you! I read a lot of posts and saw a lot of pictures you uploaded cheers Enjoyed them very much!

Maybe these links will work better. These pictures should be a lot larger. This should be easier than going through my blog post to look at the pictures.

http://420trader.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/CIMG4173.jpg

http://420trader.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/CIMG4172.jpg

http://420trader.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/CIMG4174.jpg

http://420trader.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/CIMG4175.jpg

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Post  Guest Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:11 pm

Thanks.

IMHO. i guess opening up the foliage more will do some good. revealing a well ramified branches is a better option than a thick foliage presentation. plus it will enhance the old aged look of the trunk. with so much foliage forming a single mass, the tree will look more like of a topiary rather than a bonsai. but of course the choice is always yours to make.

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jun Smile Smile Smile

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Post  JimLewis Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:11 pm

It IS a Chinese elm like Billy said. And it DOES need its canopy thinned.

Whether now is the best time to do that in Korea, I don't know.

Maybe someone you can find on his page can give you some help.

http://www.bonsaishoponline.com/bia/country/korea/index.shtml
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Post  toy4x4 Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:10 am

Seiju Elm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulmus_parvifolia_%27Seiju%27

Which is the same as Bill's post.
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Post  bonsaisr Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:23 am

Hokkaido is the cultivar with very tiny, close-set leaves, about 1/4 inch, say 5mm long. Seiju is a sport of Hokkaido that originated in California. If it is allowed to run loose, the leaves are 1/2 to 1 inch long, one to 3 cm. They are farther apart & the growth habit is different. Once you see them in person, especially if you see them side by side, you will never mistake one for the other. His tree is Hokkaido.
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Post  Guest Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:07 am

iris,

thanks for the new info.

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Post  420trader Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:03 am

Thanks for all the helpful replies! I've been bogged down in work but have also been reading several bonsai books during. I'm still not sure what to do with my bonsai. I've been looking at a lot of pictures and reading a lot of books but still can't pull the trigger. Maybe I'm a bit nervous to touch up my first tree Embarassed

Anyway, I will update with pictures as soon as I have the confidence rabbit

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Post  cbobgo Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:35 am

Don't be afraid - you could remove every single branch of this tree and it would just grow new ones. So Don't worry too much about cutting off the "wrong" thing. Thin out the branches, make it look more like a tree and less like a scrub brush Very Happy

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Post  Guest Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:10 am

follow bob's advice it's perfect. just try to imagine first the future outline of your tree, especially the branches. remove leaves by starting from the big branches, usually the bottom branch then go all the way up. remove leaves first so you can see clearly the branch formation,and do not cut big branches yet. then post it again so that people here can give you further advice. relax it wont kill your tree.

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Post  my nellie Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:43 am

jun wrote: ... .... just try to imagine first the future outline of your tree, especially the branches. ... ...
Then everyone in IBC will help you with knowledge in order to accomplish your image!
Each and everyone are helping eagerly all us new or newer to bonsai art Very Happy
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