What's the name or species for this type of plant (pine )?

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What's the name or species for this type of plant (pine )?

Post  huibengg on Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:47 am

First I would like to introduce myself as a bonsai hobbyist. I have just bought a bonsai plant (pine) which I could not find any information on the internet. Could anyone help to identify it for me & provide me with information on care and watering info for this plant?
Here are some photos to help anyone who are willing to help me. By the way I got this plant from the mobile China bonsai seller in our country, Malaysia.


Thanks.[img][/img]Limber Pine (Pinus flexilis)[img]http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/13/70/76/64/a16.jpg[[url=http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=19&u=13707664][img]http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/13/70/76/64/b15.j[url=http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=20&u=13707664]pg[/img][/url]/img][/url]


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Re: What's the name or species for this type of plant (pine )?

Post  Will Heath on Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:56 am

That is a Invisible Pine (Pinus nonexistent).

They are hard to find.... Wink



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Re: What's the name or species for this type of plant (pine )?

Post  John Quinn on Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:46 pm


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Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:48 pm

This is probably not a pine since pines without needles are usually dead.

More likely given the location it is a type of Ficus from which the leaves have been removed.

Although the trees look fairly mature they could be recently rooted cuttings from a larger tree.

We really need to see a photo of the trees with leaves.

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PICS more please

Post  Joe Hatfield on Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:03 pm

I'm not so sure its a pine from what I'm seeing so far. You are going to have to find a bigger version of what you have here or let the leaves come out for anyone to figure it out. I almost wanna tag it a type of Hazel.

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Re: What's the name or species for this type of plant (pine )?

Post  JimLewis on Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:46 pm

From the lenticules on the bark, I'd guess, birch, beech, or something in the Prunus family -- in descending order of probability.

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Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:57 pm

huibengg wrote:By the way I got this plant from the mobile China bonsai seller in our country, Malaysia.[img][/img]Limber Pine (Pinus flexilis)[img]http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/13/70/76/64/a16.jpg[[url=http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=19&u=13707664][img]http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/13/70/76/64/b15.j[url=http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=20&u=13707664]pg[/img][/url]/img][/url]

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How common would any of these species be in Malaysia?

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Re: What's the name or species for this type of plant (pine )?

Post  JimLewis on Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:27 pm

Probably not much less common than Pinus flexilis. <g> But if it IS a tropical, then I wouldn't have the froggiest notion.

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Re: New pics of the plant.

Post  huibengg on Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:35 pm

First I must say my apology for not being able to post a few photos together. Well, here I am trying again on two more of the close-up photos.


Thank you.

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Re: What's the name or species for this type of plant (pine )?

Post  AlainK on Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:07 pm

It looks like a species of larch (Larix sp.).

You will find info here :

Wikipedia : Larix

It might be a Larix speciosa if it comes from China.

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Re: What's the name or species for this type of plant (pine )?

Post  Vance Wood on Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:33 am

AlainK wrote:It looks like a species of larch (Larix sp.).

You will find info here :

Wikipedia : Larix

It might be a Larix speciosa if it comes from China.

This is most definitely Larch but I have never seen a Larch with a trunk/bark configuration like this one assuming we are talking about the same tree in both pictures.

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Re: What's the name or species for this type of plant (pine )?

Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:53 pm

Vance Wood wrote:
AlainK wrote:.

This is most definitely Larch but I have never seen a Larch with a trunk/bark configuration like this one assuming we are talking about the same tree in both pictures.

We don't have many Larch in Central Florida but I agree that the emerging needles look like what I have seen on Larch, but the phtot of the multi tree planting don't look like the Larch I have seen.

I don't know a lot about Malaysia but I don't think they have many decidious trees and I would be concerned that a decidious species would get enough cold to be happy for long.

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Re : Thanks everybody for the informations.

Post  huibengg on Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:27 pm

Thanks everybody for the help to identify my plant. I guess after some search on the net with all your help I have also come to the conclusion that it's a larch & is a coniferous plant.

Well, I also don't see many of this type of plant in Malaysia & anywhere I bought it from those bonsai seller from China.


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Re: What's the name or species for this type of plant (pine )?

Post  JimLewis on Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:56 pm

Larch need very cold winters and a LONG dormancy. I'm in zone 7, and they don't do well here. Zone 6 is ok and zones 5 and 4 they'll thrive.

You're in zone 11 or higher. I can't imagine that they'll survive if they are a larch.

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Re: What's the name or species for this type of plant (pine )?

Post  Kev Bailey on Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:08 pm

Not all Larches Jim, I'm in Zone 9 and Larix decidua and Larix kaempferi thrive here. I've probably got 50 or 60 trees. The Foresters also use them in plantations here.

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Larch survival

Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:42 pm

As I am sure Kevin knows there is Zone 9 and there is Zone 9. He is in North Wales, UK and I am on the Space Coast of Florida.

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Re: What's the name or species for this type of plant (pine )?

Post  AlainK on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:09 am

JimLewis wrote:Larch need very cold winters and a LONG dormancy. I'm in zone 7, and they don't do well here. Zone 6 is ok and zones 5 and 4 they'll thrive.

You're in zone 11 or higher. I can't imagine that they'll survive if they are a larch.

In my opinion, it's not a question of how long the winter lasts, it's more a matter of the summer conditions : I live in zone 8b, and the problem (compared to zone 9 in Wales) is that it can get very dry and hot in the summer.

Yet, my laches are very healthy : I put them in the shade in the hottest weeks, and I pay attention to the roots that must stay in a damp soil. Larches are very thirsty trees...

I have Dunkel larches (Larix x × marschlinsii, syn. L. × eurolepis, an illegitimate name), more resistant to drought than Larix decidua, the European larch, but friends here have European larches and they're doing well too.

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