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Post  Guest on Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:43 pm



poor base, poor trunk, poor foliage mass, styled like pine tree.



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the workshop



some wood works



some bending. after lump removal and unwanted major roots




change branching style, and little help from the "rock" to have tapered trunk illusion



the outcome. hope you like it....


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Post  Neil Jaeger on Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:56 pm

looks very nice to me. what kind of tree is this?

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Post  Guest on Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:10 pm

Thanks,
ahh... i think its called yellow doggie ( forgot scientific name).. il verify.

hows your elm? its a good tree if your just starting the hobby. its a very stable tree, its one of my starting tree too.
dont think of any design for it yet, just let it grow. the tree will guide you later...of course with lot of research.

your friend from asia,
jun

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Post  Neil Jaeger on Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:48 pm

my elm is doing great. we are going to hollow creek this weekend (hollowcreek.com) i really want a pine of some sort. i think one of the things that i lack is patience. it seems i want to do a hundred things at once.

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Post  Guest on Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:04 pm

..then you are on the right track, working with bonsai will teach you to have patience...a lot of patience and concentration or focus at the same time. i think that's the first requirement with this ancient art.

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Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:10 pm

This looks like what I have and sold as a Chinese Privet.

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Post  Russell Coker on Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:37 pm

Billy M. Rhodes wrote:This looks like what I have and sold as a Chinese Privet.

Privet (Ligustrum) has opposite leaves, this has alternate. In the second picture, top left side, you can see thorns too.

It's pretty Jun, what do the flowers/fruit look like?

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Post  Guest on Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:12 pm

Hi Russell,
for several season that i have it, it didnt produce flower or fruit, probably i think not yet. and yes i has lot of thorns specially on the younger branch.
its part of my first plant collection that i have forgotten in my garden. before im not much concerned with plant species name so i just left it there to grow...it has some local names here but no scientific name.
should i post it in the question forum, or is it ok here?

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Post  Russell Coker on Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:16 am

It looks really familiar, maybe some of the other members that live in tropical climates will recognize it. I bet Jose Luis Rodriguez would know what it is. Post the pictures on the questions forum and mention the thorns on the younger branches, and anything else important. Maybe you'll get a bite.

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Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:32 am

How about Chinese Sweet Plum - Sageretia theezan

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Post  Guest on Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:58 am

thanks Russell, il post it.

Thanks Billy, im not so sure, until i get some flowers if ever.

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Post  Todd Ellis on Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:09 am

Billy M. Rhodes wrote:How about Chinese Sweet Plum - Sageretia theezan
Sweet plums (Sageritia theezans) have exfoliating bark. This looks like an old tree, but
i don't see any exfoliating bark. The leaves look like sweet plum though. Very Happy

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Post  jrodriguez on Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:31 pm

Good morning and good evening (for our Asian friends)

Yellow Doggie (Tahid Labuyo) is a common plant used for bonsai in Indonesia and the Phillipines. Its roots have medicinal properties, and in folk medicine it is used to alleviate cough and gastrological discomfort. Sometimes the ground wood is made into a paste to alleviate fevers. Latin name: Vanieria Cochinchinensis, formerly known as Cudrania Cochinchinensis

In Indonesia the local name for this tree is Sisir. In China it is known as Gou Jí (构棘) or thorny mulberry.


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Post  Guest on Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:09 pm

Thanks Jose Luis.
all i know is the yellow doggie name. thanks for the verification and latin name.

regards,
jun

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Post  Rob Kempinski on Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:44 pm

Jun,

Good idea to carve the base of the trunk.
I feel you don't need the rock. Rocks placed next to a trunk like that almost always look like an afterthought.
The change in direction in the trunk is fine and the rock really doesn't add anything.
Exposing or developing some roots might be a better means to improve the tree.

Also, if you were more aggressive and daring you might consider mimicking the shari further up the trunk by chopping the tree and making it shorter while adding a scar at the site of the chop. This would improve the taper and give the design rhythm. I am not familiar with this species but hopefully like most tropical trees it will grow quickly.

PS Your alcove looks like a great place to appreciate bonsai. My wife really frowns on my doing bonsai work in the living are of our house though.

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Post  Guest on Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:21 pm

thanks Rob.
il consider your wise advice seriously. this tree like i said, is one of my first... what makes thing worse, this is my wife's favorite tree...i dont why, its one of my not so pretty trees. So il be needing to pass through a lot of "redtapes" in order to chop this one down. i really do want to shorten this tree for almost a year now, but my boss wife wont allow me... i guess i need a separate advice on this issue. Mad Mad Mad

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