Can I make raft style of Fir?

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Can I make raft style of Fir?

Post  iskhan on Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:13 pm

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Can I make raft style of Fir?

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Can I Make a Raft Style of Fir?

Post  bonsaisr on Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:52 pm

Welcome to IBC.
It may not matter, but which species of fir are you planning to use? Have you ever seen one in nature that fell over, & the branches kept growing? Show us a picture of the specimen you are planning to use. Where is Printec?
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Re: Can I make raft style of Fir?

Post  iskhan on Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:30 am

Hi Iris
There is mistake in location I am living in Karachi, Pakistan.I can't find any image of fir growing here but If I try to describe it.
It is triangle shape and grow vertically.
There are 7 to 8 branches across the trunk if we separate the each set it look like this:
1# starting from roots 2# above on 1# 5-10 inches gap and so on 3# & 4#.
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Every branch is parallel to above branch.
Every branch is growing horizontally.
Branches are not multiply like other trees. Only small leaves like this:

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Re: Can I make raft style of Fir?

Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:34 am

It helps to know the scientific (Latin) name of a plant, because what is called a "fir" in Pakistan may not be a fir at all.

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Re: Can I make raft style of Fir?

Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:45 am

True 'firs' are Abies and are found all over the world, usually at higher elevation. It should be possible to create a raft by removing all but one of the branches from the whorls and wiring that branch up.

However, alpine trees sometimes don't do well at lower and warmer locations.

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Re: Can I make raft style of Fir?

Post  iskhan on Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:22 am

if fir branches not multiple then how can each branch grow like a separate tree?

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Re: Can I make raft style of Fir?

Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:47 am

iskhan wrote:if fir branches not multiple then how can each branch grow like a separate tree?

I am not quite sure what you mean here, but as the tree matures the individual branches will develop side branches and resemble a tree, although they are still connected.

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Re: Can I make raft style of Fir?

Post  iskhan on Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:54 am

OK.
2nd thing is how I know that new root system is developed and now its time to cut the stemp from parent tree?

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Can I Make a Raft Style of Fir?

Post  bonsaisr on Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:48 pm

I think we have a language problem here, or confusion about raft style. If you made a raft, you would turn the old tree on its side and bury it. There would be some branches sticking up to make a group of small trees. When the raft is established, you wouldn't cut anything off except the part of the old root ball that sticks up. Are you thinking of air-layering? Too bad there isn't a bonsai club in Pakistan.
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