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Post  jgeanangel Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:01 am

Very nice Pavel!! That certainly takes this piece to the next level.

Be brave Ms. Fiona;)

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Post  John Quinn Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:18 am

Nice video, John, and nice virtual Pavel!
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Post  Pavel Slovák Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:40 am

Hi Fiona.

Even small adjustments.

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Post  fiona Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:10 am

Now I'm beginning to like this. Wink

Thanks Pavel. I was not at all convinced that the organised pad approach would work, but I think I see exactly where this is coming from. Interestingly, I initially saw the mass of the foliage down the left side of the tree, but now .... oh WAY too many decisions so early in the morning.

One thing I am noticing in the two virts is the complete elimination of the back branch. I think that is a vital first step.
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Post  Lukas Sirotny Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:54 am

Hi Fiona, I would agree with Nik on the second photo for a new planting angle. I think that both options are ok, however, moving the canopy to the right I can not see the way how to create a harmony between the crown and the main jin - on the virtuals I DO NOT like the crossing of both elements. Therefore (if you are convinced to keep the jin), I would prefer the option to the left (as I suggest on my quick virtual) where all three jins make much more sense and, consequently, more dramatic image of tree is created. Just my humble opinion.
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Post  fiona Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:02 pm

Thank you very much for this virtual, Lukas. I said way back at the start of this thread that I originally thought that the new planting angle should be the way you have it. And your virtual is pretty much what I envisaged for the tree before all the new suggestions came in.

Another item for considering before making a decision.

Thanks again - appreciate your input.
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Post  gordonb Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:16 pm

I liked the initial slant that you did, Fiona, but felt that the foliage/canopy would have to be trained further right to compensate for the angle change -sort of what Lukas has done with his virtual.
p.s. - no tonic, I just liked the word-play. Smile

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Post  Pavel Slovák Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:39 pm


It is also important to think about the possibility of the imposition of the pot. How it will be placed.

Pavel

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Post  JimLewis Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:41 pm

Pretty virt, but perhaps the foliage is still a bit too neat for a tree which "obviously" has suffered the vicissitudes of the wild weather on a mountaintop.
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Post  Ian Young Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:58 pm

Both are fine by me but I prefer Lukas virtual. It shows off the best elements of the tree.

Yer heed il be turned pickin one Twisted Evil
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Post  fiona Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:40 pm

Ian Young wrote: Yer heed il be turned pickin one Twisted Evil
It's a well-kent fact that I've been aff ma heid fir pure ages!" Wink


Vicissitudes eh? There are probably only about two people on here that'd use a word like that, and one of them's me. Like it, Jim!
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Post  fiona Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:57 pm

Thanks to everyone who has made suggestions herein and do feel free to make more.

I have done a couple of additional things to the tree today, not the least of which being to unwire it as it was beginning to dig in. I'm offering up a "spot the difference" competition to see if you notice the other change. There may be prizes.

I'll probably let it rest up for a bit now as it has been recommended to me that major styling is held off until early next spring.

Here's how it looks at close of play today.

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Post  Ricky Keaton Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:15 pm

Pavel Slovák wrote:
It is also important to think about the possibility of the imposition of the pot. How it will be placed.

Pavel

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what software u use to do that with?
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Post  Guest Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:36 pm

You have Jinned the bottom back branch Fiona.

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Post  Guest Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:50 pm

Can't wait for my prize Fiona....really excited Very Happy

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Post  fiona Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:18 pm

will baddeley wrote:Can't wait for my prize Fiona....really excited Very Happy
I just put it in the post - Royal Snail second class. You should get it by October and if you're lucky it won't have gone completely off by then. Well done. A worthy winner.
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Post  Guest Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:20 pm

Probably get here before the new camera I ordered 2 weeks ago Sad

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Post  John Quinn Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:26 pm

"nice tree, Fiona!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Cool
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Post  anttal63 Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:12 pm

Beautiful design & virt pavel, you have found the rythm and balance in that tree. Nice material Fiona that is the way i would take it if it were mine. cheers
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Post  Ami BAS Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:18 pm

Fiona,

The main difference between Lucas' and Pavel's designs [apart of the Photoshop work Very Happy ] is the positioning of the foliage with/ against the trunk movement. Pavel's is more balanced and natural to me.
Besides, after you make your choice and complete finish with the foliage design, I think you'll need to fine tune the jins, especially the lower branch of the left one and the inner "finger" of the bottom-right.
I think it is great when one have a tree with some options, and yours is on its way to a masterpiece.
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Post  fiona Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:03 pm

John Quinn wrote:"nice tree, Fiona!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
And you can quote me on that! flutter eyelashes Wink
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Post  fiona Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:14 pm

Did a styling on it yesterday and today as it was too miserable weather to do much else.

I have been "brave" of sorts and have attempted to be true to Pavel's virt. As it is, the foliage is pretty much all at the end of branches so taking it in as close to the trunk as per the virt will take a bit more growing. I have also kept some extra foliage on it as I wanted a security net in case of mishaps with branches.

It's significantly different to what I had envisaged two years ago, but I must say I am pretty much happy with the result. There's still a lot of bulking out and repositioning, but it's well on its way.

And apologies to Pavel as I promised him I wouldn't tinker with it too much over the summer. Sorry Pavel I'm a woman - when did we ever do what we were told?

Right I'm away to do other "woman" things such as find it essential to vacuum while the football is on and unnecessarily move furniture around just because I fancy a change. Evil or Very Mad

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Just realised I should have reduce the higher jin at the left side, and I think the drooping one at the rear needs to go as well.
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Post  Smithy Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:54 pm

Thats looking great Fiona.
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Post  F. Waheedy Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:11 pm

Very nice work, Fiona. Love the pads. Looks great.
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Post  Guest Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:28 pm

Its so frustrating when I'm at work that all I get is text. Mad

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