QUERCUS ILEX CUTTINGS

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QUERCUS ILEX CUTTINGS

Post  my nellie on Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:21 pm

I would like to ask anyone who knows silviculture/geoponics whether vegetative propagation can be applied to Quercus Ilex (sub. ilex) or Holm Oak. And I mean is rooting of hardwood cuttings possible?
(this is a silly question I guess...)

I have read that Ilex crenata could be propagated by "almost ripe wood with a heel of hardwood in August".
Has anyone ever tried something like that?
Do you think that this can be similarly applied to Quercus ilex?

Thank you all!

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Post  bezmar915neo on Wed May 04, 2011 6:16 am

YES! They root very easily. I have one that all the leaves fell off and I thought it dead as I cut a large sucker from parent tree w a hatchet and a pick and it lived tho all the leaves fell off. Its been 2 yrs now and its very vigorous. I'll post pick for u soon. I think they r indestructible

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Post  my nellie on Wed May 04, 2011 10:24 am

Thank you for your time to answer!
I appreciate your photos and I am anxious to look at them.
Will you please also give me some details about timing and the conditions (substrate, humidity, etc) that the cutting has been kept.

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Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Wed May 04, 2011 12:46 pm

How you seen the latest BCI magazine article on this variety, the tree is called the "Cobra" and the grower is Italian and article was originally in Italian.

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Post  bezmar915neo on Wed May 04, 2011 9:45 pm

Apologies but mine are ilex vomitoria aka youpon I believe are the same.
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Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Wed May 04, 2011 10:28 pm

Mark

Your plants are a Holly (Ilex); this discussion is about an Oak tree variety that seems to be found mostly in the Mediterranean area. It has a leaf that someone though looked like a holly leaf so it is called Holly Oak or Quercus (Oak) ilex (holly).

What you have is a native species of holly that the Native Americans used as a purgative (I think they used the berries, which are black when ripe.) Yaupon holly is a common name.

A popular cultivar of Ilex vomitoria is "Schillings" which has really small leaves, are all males and are always therefore grown from cuttings. A Mr. Schillings discovered the parent plant many years ago. (Holly plants are male or female, males don't get berries.)

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Post  bezmar915neo on Wed May 04, 2011 10:49 pm

Yes my understanding is the native Americans used they berries to purge themselves hence the vomitoria. I was in the wrong forum. However youpons do propogate very easily. Sorry. Was is you who posted about grafting a male branch to a female to pollenate? That's a great idea. Does it work? And I read an article in bonsai today where the author ground layers one these oaks successfully.
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Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Wed May 04, 2011 11:36 pm

The grafting idea was not me, what would be the point, unless you needed a purgative.

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Post  bezmar915neo on Wed May 04, 2011 11:50 pm

Haha! Well the berries r quite attractive in fall without leaves

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Post  Billy M. Rhodes on Thu May 05, 2011 1:20 am

My Ilex vomitoria is evergreen and on the female the berries are black.

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Post  Guest on Thu May 05, 2011 3:30 am

I have also read about the "hardwood heal" being needed in a few tricky to root species, I 've tried a few tricks with Quercus myself and none have worked so I may try this one this year. Incidentaly I have read that Quercus can be air layered...If that helps.

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Post  my nellie on Thu May 05, 2011 7:23 am

Very interesting all this info.
Thanks.
If I ever be to a quercus ilex woods in some place here I will try to dig up one or else I can anyway get one from a nursery, can't I? Very Happy

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Post  Ireneu on Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:01 pm

Have you obtained your Quercus ilex finally? Very Happy

I've got one since 1986 from digging, but my experience says that the better way for growing a Holm Oak it's directly planting its seeds. They grow quickly and very strong, and in only 2-3 years you can obtain one Holm thicker than a pen. Cuttings they don't work because the bark it's too much strong.

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Post  my nellie on Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:46 am

Hello, Ireneu! Thanks for asking and for your suggestion.
No, not yet. You see the nursery trees I find are just like long poles, no low branching, no interest at all.
I wait until I can collect one Very Happy

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