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Korean Hornbeam 2005 - 2010

Post  Herbert A on Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:52 am

I bought this tree 2005. I thougt the tree needs a radical change to make a bonsai of it.

2005


There were ugly wounds of cutting the tree.


.. and a lot of branches on the top.


So i shaped the trunk from the roots to the top. Then i looked which part of the tree is living before i continue the work with the tree.


two years after beginning


March 2010


and now


I think the tree is on the right way.

cu
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Re: Korean Hornbeam 2005 - 2010

Post  John Quinn on Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:41 am

Better taper and you have lost the ugly scar...coming along nicely!

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Re: Korean Hornbeam 2005 - 2010

Post  Herbert A on Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:11 am

Three years later and an new pot.



Hope you enjoy
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Post  Guest on Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:20 am

Herbert A wrote:Three years later and an new pot.



Hope you enjoy
Herbert

Hi,
the changes you made were all for the better. In my opinion they all improved the tree.
But i see a possible problem coming up with the second left branch (the one that is dropping towards the first lower left main branch). This branch will visually disturb the image too much i'm afraid. i personally would shorten it (quite a bit). You have a good tree in the making there, otherwise

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virtual tree

Post  abcd on Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:59 pm

With a virtual, it's easy !!!
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Re: Korean Hornbeam 2005 - 2010

Post  giufo on Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:20 pm

really good job Very Happy

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Post  Rui Marques on Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:21 pm

Nice job and development.

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Post  hometeamrocker on Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:25 pm

Great looking tree and I agree about the left branch, but might keep the right one long as-is. What's the pot? It's great and a great compliment to the tree. Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Korean Hornbeam 2005 - 2010

Post  Herbert A on Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:25 pm

Thank you for your posts.

I will noch change the style of this tree. This branch makes him specialy. The new pot is from Horst Heinzlreiter.
It´s looking not so hard in summer.



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Re: Korean Hornbeam 2005 - 2010

Post  Rui Marques on Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:14 am

Imagine this tree in fall colors... just stunning!

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Re: Korean Hornbeam 2005 - 2010

Post  abcd on Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:20 am

Hello ,
I will not change the style of this tree. This branch makes him specialy
OK, don't change off course, it's just an other vision off your tree, too symetric for me


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Re: Korean Hornbeam 2005 - 2010

Post  Guest on Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:08 am

Herbert A wrote:Thank you for your posts.

I will noch change the style of this tree. This branch makes him specialy. The new pot is from Horst Heinzlreiter.
It´s looking not so hard in summer.



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yes you're right but that is because this image you show here is from a later period than the one I commented on. I see its allready without wire and the branch has sprung up again a little bit so its looking better again.

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Re: Korean Hornbeam 2005 - 2010

Post  Guest on Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:45 pm

Herbert is not asking for design suggestions. he is just sharing his tree.
Herbert, you are satisfied with your tree and that is a good thing, it means you are not doing your bonsai for other people. ThumbsUp


There are dozens here who are asking design comments and suggestions but a lot of them doesn't get response. There are current active threads in the "question forum" asking for design opinions. like one from raffles, stefan, and kiyalynn.


regards,
jun Smile



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Post  Russell Coker on Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:37 pm





I like what you've done, and the new pot is STUNNING! Is there a way to safely minimize the lump where that first branch was removed?

Nice tree Herbert!

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Re: Korean Hornbeam 2005 - 2010

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:47 pm

L.L.B,

it is easier to change a "finished" object than fix a seedling. chuckle.

I like the tree ------ punto finale.
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Re: Korean Hornbeam 2005 - 2010

Post  Herbert A on Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:49 pm

Hallo

@jun
it is really ok if users write how they would style the tree. I read it, go to the tree and look if it is better or not.
In case of this tree i will not change the style. I wanted to create an old tree and a old tree does not look like a young and perfect tree. He has mistakes and great wounds. Wound of the nature and the life.

So Russel, i could remove the great lump at the left side. But i think it is a good counterweight for the balance of the tree and it makes a further movement in the trunk.

@ abcd. The picture with the leafes was taken last year. The picture i postet was taken before a few days :-).

Thank you all for your comments.
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Re: Korean Hornbeam 2005 - 2010

Post  Guest on Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:35 am

Khaimraj Seepersad wrote:L.L.B,

it is easier to change a "finished" object than fix a seedling. chuckle.

I like the tree ------ punto finale.
Later,
KHaimraj


hehehe! I know! that's why I am pointing at those trees, to see how good they are in projecting a future design.

Me too, I like the tree ,with some enhancement added for future design. the dropping branch is actually not a mistake or an visual disturbance. It creates a character making the tree an "individual". Since herbert give it go for others to comment on his tree, My only observation is that is is turning into a pine tree. If it were mine I would extend first branch and making the canopy wider,,, and capitalized on the dropping branch to make the tree look older.


regards,
jun Smile


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Post  Guest on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:04 am

jun wrote:
Khaimraj Seepersad wrote:L.L.B,

it is easier to change a "finished" object than fix a seedling. chuckle.

I like the tree ------ punto finale.
Later,
KHaimraj


the dropping branch is actually not a mistake or an visual disturbance.
regards,
jun Smile


well, in my opinion it was, but Herbert corrected it allready if you look at the picture I commented on and the later one. But no worries, I see you are now hasty to comment yourself. You should not use that to crack down others' comments. And that is the last bit of text I'll give you Wink

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Post  Guest on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:45 am

yves71277 wrote:
jun wrote:
Khaimraj Seepersad wrote:L.L.B,

it is easier to change a "finished" object than fix a seedling. chuckle.

I like the tree ------ punto finale.
Later,
KHaimraj


the dropping branch is actually not a mistake or an visual disturbance.
regards,
jun Smile




well, in my opinion it was, but Herbert corrected it allready if you look at the picture I commented on and the later one. But no worries, I see you are now hasty to comment yourself. You should not use that to crack down others' comments. And that is the last bit of text I'll give you Wink

I salute you! you are a great bonsai artist,,,I can see it in your works Wink

regards,
jun Razz





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Post  Guest on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:46 am

jun wrote:
yves71277 wrote:
jun wrote:
Khaimraj Seepersad wrote:L.L.B,

it is easier to change a "finished" object than fix a seedling. chuckle.

I like the tree ------ punto finale.
Later,
KHaimraj


the dropping branch is actually not a mistake or an visual disturbance.
regards,
jun Smile




well, in my opinion it was, but Herbert corrected it allready if you look at the picture I commented on and the later one. But no worries, I see you are now hasty to comment yourself. You should not use that to crack down others' comments. And that is the last bit of text I'll give you Wink

I salute you! you are a great bonsai artist,,,I can see it in your works Wink

regards,
jun Smile




Well Jun, if there was something like the Last Mohican, there certainly must be someone like the last boyscout too the way you try to ridiculize yourself.

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Re: Korean Hornbeam 2005 - 2010

Post  Guest on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:53 am

Wink Wink wink!wink!

no such word as rediculize, BTW.
I am watching your works, I am sure I will learn a lot.


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jun Smile

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Post  Guest on Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:00 pm

jun wrote: Wink Wink wink!wink!

no such word as rediculize, BTW.
I am watching your works, I am sure I will learn a lot.


regards,
jun Smile

well why dont you by a ticket and spend some time here, your welcome. Get a thick coat, its way colder here, a slight difference with your climate advantages. But if you want to go on attacking a bit more, pls do so, show it to the world, and to Herbert, but you didnt really want to listen to him too i guess

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Post  Guest on Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:06 pm

I am not attacking you Yves, I just commented on other possibilities for the tree. Don't you think that's how a forum should be?...the more ideas the better.
The design can go either way, with the dropping branch or without it. but like I said with the dropping branch it will look different and a good start to make the design not "pine like" tree.

I love to visit your place, just give me an assurance that I get back to the airport in one piece...hehe.

regards,
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Post  Guest on Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:10 pm

jun wrote:I am not attacking you Yves, I just commented on other possibilities for the tree. Don't you think that's how a forum should be?...the more ideas the better.
The design can go either way, with the dropping branch or without it. but like I said with the dropping branch it will look different and a good start to make the design not "pine like" tree.

I love to visit your place, just give me an assurance that I get back to the airport in one piece...hehe.

regards,
jun Smile


attack decently, not hiding and encrypting like you loved to do (referring to the dropped branch which was exactly my comment).
but the last few boyscout replies from several ones have been the droplet. this really does not contribute in anyway any more to me.
I can find what i need while silently watching too, for those few topics I am here for, the rest is looking at pictures. commenting just for commenting must not be my thing.

Sorry Herbert Wink but i will now delete my account so i wont be of any disturbance anymore Smile

And Jun, well you refused my proposal? ok

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Post  Guest on Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:22 pm

yves71277 wrote:
jun wrote:I am not attacking you Yves, I just commented on other possibilities for the tree. Don't you think that's how a forum should be?...the more ideas the better.
The design can go either way, with the dropping branch or without it. but like I said with the dropping branch it will look different and a good start to make the design not "pine like" tree.

I love to visit your place, just give me an assurance that I get back to the airport in one piece...hehe.

regards,
jun Smile


attack decently, not hiding and encrypting like you loved to do (referring to the dropped branch which was exactly my comment).
i told you, its the last bit of such hidden dirt i want to read from you. I have allready blocked you in pm too.
If this is the habit here, you're gonna have a great laugh soon, cause i will be gone here.
And Jun, if you buy your own tickets (and thick coat) you're still welcome


Don't leave, But be open to other opinions as well, that is one of the best avenue of learning, as I learned here in IBC personally. and if somebody counter your idea it is not against you personally but maybe to your ideas and it is called democracy. and there is nothing personal about it, You have to know me more...I am the opposite of what you think I am. You can ask some forum members who know me personally.
Again I am not attacking you. I am beginning to like you Smile really.

regards,
jun Smile

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