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Post  Mawardi Nur on Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:32 am

I have trained this elm for two years since dug from the forest, now the elm has been showing some progress. Any comments are welcome for my works.
Thanks.

Early look


Progress after restyle by Dorothy


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Re: Elm_2 trunk

Post  Reiner Goebel on Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:16 am

Where is the second trunk? I see a tree with a very low first branch.

What is a trunk?

A trunk is a piece of wood that has roots at the bottom and branches further up. You have one of those. What you call a second trunk is really a branch.

What is a branch?

A branch is a piece of wood that has no roots and emanates from a trunk and has twigs.

What is a twig?

It's a piece of wood that has no roots, emanates from a branch and not from the trunk and has leaves.

Simple, isn't it? Smile

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Post  Mawardi Nur on Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:09 pm

Thank Reiner, upps..I was wrong to write..

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Post  Carolee on Thu May 06, 2010 2:44 pm

I do not think you were wrong to post. I think the reply you received was rude, even if the definitions were correct. You asked for feedback on your tree, and received a lecture about the title of your post. Not the usual behavior of people who post, especially someone like Reiner Goebel who as an expert is usually much more patient with novices.

I am not an expert, but I like your tree. I think the initial styling is on the right track. Let the major branches develop and don't worry about the secondary branches at this point.

I hope you will post again, and show the progress of this tree.

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Post  davemac on Thu May 06, 2010 6:43 pm

If you don't ask then how are you to learn. Unfortunately the sarcastic comments you rec'd does little to help and not worthy of this forum.

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Post  Todd Ellis on Sat May 08, 2010 3:38 am

davemac wrote:If you don't ask then how are you to learn. Unfortunately the sarcastic comments you rec'd does little to help and not worthy of this forum.
Ditto!

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Re: Elm_2 trunk

Post  Mawardi Nur on Wed May 12, 2010 1:52 am

Thanks a lot for any comment on my tree. I appreciate any comment. May be other idea are welcome to make tree better.

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Post  JimLewis on Wed May 12, 2010 12:41 pm

I like the tree, though I'm a bit sorry that you shortened the big "branch."

I think you need to fertilize heavily to promote rampant growth and get a little more top going before you do much else.

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Post  Mawardi Nur on Sun May 23, 2010 2:55 pm

Thanks Jim, What to do again after remification better?

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Elm 2 Trunk

Post  bonsaisr on Sun May 23, 2010 3:27 pm

Although technically Reiner is correct, a lot of people consider a tree with a large branch close to the ground as "two-trunk," and style it that way.
However, the fact that the short second "trunk" is more upright and the main trunk leans to the left somehow doesn't look natural to me. It's kind of unbalanced. In nature, I think you would have the main tree leaning a little to the right, and the second "trunk" or lowest branch leaning out under it trying to reach the sun.
I was surprised to find that Ulmus, an otherwise north temperate genus, is represented in Indonesia. Which species is it? (I think there's a stray maple down there too.)
Iris


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Post  moyogijohn on Sun May 23, 2010 4:37 pm

MY opion would be to also strighten the tree up to the right. loose the sheri at the top of both trunks.take the right branch on both trunks bring them up for a new apex.. to me dead wood at the top does not look right .. my opion only..thanks john

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Post  Mawardi Nur on Mon May 24, 2010 1:11 am

I was surprised to find that Ulmus, an otherwise north temperate genus, is represented in Indonesia. Which species is it? (I think there's a stray maple down there too.)
Iris

Thank you for the suggestion, It's elm, but I don't know what kind of elm type?

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Re: Elm_2 trunk

Post  RichLewis on Tue May 25, 2010 12:13 am

Hi Mawardi

Please excuse the crude picture! I'm turning your elm into a ficus...

Here is an idea for a tree with a spreading canopy, with the uro as a focal point. The dotted line suggests where you could carve the deadwood to induce taper. Also how are the surface roots (blue)? Strong, spreading surface roots would look good on this. If this is an elm, you could probably graft some on anyway.

And yes, fertilise heavily for a few seasons before you style. Check the wires every 6 months to make sure they don't bite into the tree. I know every 6 months sounds too frequent, but you do live in a tropical climate and the trees probably grow constantly and quickly.



Regards, Richard

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