I would love a virtual for this larch.

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I would love a virtual for this larch.

Post  Smithy on Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:03 pm

I bought this at the JOB on the weekend and would love it if somebody could come up with some ideas . i've seen the great virtual's people did of tonys hawthorn and would love a few ideas for this larch.
Iwould like to know which way to go with it so I can cut everything off i don't need and then let it grow for the season and wire in the winter.








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Post  dorothy7774 on Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:03 am

Perhaps something like this? I worked with some of the existing branches and grew a top. All in one day.. Laughing


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Post  mike page on Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:29 am

Good job Dorothy!

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Post  Ravi Kiran on Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:13 am

Hi Smithy,

the pics posted by you are closeup of the tree. While they do provide the much needed details, it is difficult to work on a virtual on a closeup pic. Pls do post pics that are give a little more distant perspective of the tree. Preferably more than one.

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Post  Tony on Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:34 am

dorothy7774 wrote:Perhaps something like this? I worked with some of the existing branches and grew a top. All in one day.. Laughing

You should do it exactly as Dorothy has shown... style like a larch!

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Post  Smithy on Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:44 pm

dorothy7774 wrote:Perhaps something like this? I worked with some of the existing branches and grew a top. All in one day.. Laughing


Thanks ever so much Dorothy for spending the time to do that. I like it very much and I am going to try and execute your design to the best of my abilities. it really does suit the tree.
You know you have a little bit of a talent for this. Cool

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Post  Smithy on Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:48 pm

Ravi Kiran wrote:Hi Smithy,

the pics posted by you are closeup of the tree. While they do provide the much needed details, it is difficult to work on a virtual on a closeup pic. Pls do post pics that are give a little more distant perspective of the tree. Preferably more than one.

Ravi
Hi Ravi ,
on the weekend when i have time i will get some more together. it would be interesting to see what you come up with. I'm pretty open minded but I kinda like Dorothys a lot and feel quite attached to it already

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Post  Martijn Willems on Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:37 am

Hope you like it Wink


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Post  Smithy on Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:11 pm

Thanks Martijn. I'm enjoying getting these.

On both of the virtuals , you both seem to have used the same photo. The first branch on the right ,on the real tree emerges from the back. Are you suggesting that it is bent around to the front.

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Post  Smithy on Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:14 pm

I was going to shorten all the long growth and then let it grow another season and then wire.

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Post  Smithy on Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:32 pm

I thought i would update this one. I decided i could use a lot of the branches as they were too thick and straight so i decided to start again. It didn't quite turn out as good as Dorothys virtual. I now have to try and sort out that big root when i repot.


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Post  Pavel Slovák on Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:13 pm

Hi Smithy


nice work Very Happy Very Happy . Very good solution. ThumbsUp But the system forming the right branch is a bit odd. Profile branches. Wink

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Post  Smithy on Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:20 pm

Thanks Pavel, yes i know what you mean, i have moved the branches around more since the photo . Tomorrow i will take some more photos and show you from the side.

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Post  Smithy on Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:49 pm

Hi Pavel, here is a photo of the side of the tree today . What do you think.

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Post  Pavel Slovák on Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:08 pm

Hi Smithy

thank you for your foto.
I think mainly for the construction of the main branches, small branches folding method. Very Happy



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Post  Smithy on Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:13 pm

Thankyou Pavel, I understand, I will have a go at that.

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Post  RichLewis on Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:04 pm

Nice taper on it now, but that straight root on the right is a bit distracting.

Is it possible to approach graft some young trees onto the base to develop nebari? Just a suggestion, haven't grown larch before so don't really know how well they take to such techniques.

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Post  Smithy on Fri Nov 26, 2010 3:59 pm

RichLewis wrote:Nice taper on it now, but that straight root on the right is a bit distracting.

Is it possible to approach graft some young trees onto the base to develop nebari? Just a suggestion, haven't grown larch before so don't really know how well they take to such techniques.

Cheers

Hi Rich,
That straight root is more than distracting. I've not seen any of the roots below the soil yet so when i repot i'm hoping there are plenty of others there and i might be able to chop it off. Thats the plan anyway, whether things go to plan is a different matter.

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Post  RichLewis on Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:04 pm

I don't think the position of that root there is totally out of place, if you find you can't remove it perhaps you could bury half of it under the soil so it's more in scale with the rest of the tree

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Post  Smithy on Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:52 pm

I'll have to show you a pic closer up. The trunk flares out nicely to the left ,but about an inch or so below the level of that big root on the right. I guess untill i get it all out of the pot i won't know for sure what to do with it.

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Post  Smithy on Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:29 pm

I had a little move around of the branches .

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Post  Smithy on Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:39 pm

I thought i would update this thread as its been a long time. Maybe now if i was to do it again i might get it a bit more like Dorothys viirt,but here i am now.
I took the big root off last year to plant it a bit higher in the pot.


I wanted to bring the angle of the first branch down.



I also want to try the timber twisting ' method that Simon Temblett uses . Here is last years growth in the first pic and then every year i will make a little bigger to get some ripples in the wood.







This is the tree today.


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Post  wabashene on Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:56 pm

What a fine job Smithy.

Althought the branch tear down looks risky I think there's every chance of a 100% success.

I often stick a flat wedgey bit of horticultural grit in there to take the strain off the wiring and pack it out with plasticine and vaseline for cosmetic effect only. (see the yellow dot on the included pic)

The bit of grit is still in a couple of my trees all grown over


thks

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Post  Guest on Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:20 pm

Hi Smithy.
Very nice development. Since I don't do larch and pine. Just wondering how strong the first branch is after that deep cut above the branch?

regards,
jun Smile

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