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Post  dorothy7774 Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:15 am

Slowly getting there, Procumbens nana grown from a cutting. Different angles:

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Post  tmmason10 Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:11 am

It's looking really nice from a cutting. How long has it been in training?

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Post  Dark Cloud Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:35 am

Awsome,very nice juniper.... thumbs up

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Post  dorothy7774 Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:36 pm

tmmason10 wrote:It's looking really nice from a cutting. How long has it been in training?

I am growing it since 9 or 10 years. When I say cutting, it shared roots with its mother plant. I separated it and had only little roots on its own. At one time it was an informal upright, then I extended the lowest branch and jinned the right half of the tree.

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Post  dorothy7774 Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:37 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:Awsome,very nice juniper.... thumbs up

Thanks! cheers

-Dorothy
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Post  gman Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:46 pm

Hi Dorothy,
Nice and delicate, when you say; “different angles” - is the first one the front? Or would you show a little more main/lower base/trunk as the front?

Wow nine years.....hhhhmmm let me think.....maybe that's why I like Yamadori so much....I should have started my bonsai journey a lot earlier in life lol.
Cheers Graham
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Post  dorothy7774 Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:10 pm

gman wrote:Hi Dorothy,
Nice and delicate, when you say; “different angles” - is the first one the front? Or would you show a little more main/lower base/trunk as the front?
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The angle would change the tree from being an informal cascade to a formal cascade. I usually like to see more trunkline in general. I'll make some mor pics.

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Post  efishn Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:36 pm

Hi Dorothy,

I like your tree - piece of art - very much. few days ago i bought Procumbens for me.
Since you have this species for long time, i would like to ask please, if you have any special comments about how to grow it ?

Thank you
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Post  dorothy7774 Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:11 pm

More pics:

Informal Cascade
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Formal Cascade
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Post  dorothy7774 Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:27 pm

efishn wrote:Hi Dorothy,

I like your tree - piece of art - very much. few days ago i bought Procumbens for me.
Since you have this species for long time, i would like to ask please, if you have any special comments about how to grow it ?

Thank you
Efi

Efi, I only know how to grow it in my backyard, here in S FL. It gets very hot in summer and almost no cold during winter. I provide my junipers with plenty of water as I fertilize them quite a lot all year round. During hot temperatures I protect them from too much sun as they can easily get sunburn. (If I say "sunburn" it might not be the conventional burn by the sun. However, it best describes the results)
I only work on them during their active growing period. So no work during shedding period, hot summer days/nights. This may all be contrary to someone growing Procumbens up North, I am pretty sure. I need to keep the junipers vigorous down here, so I am on the more cautious side.

The biggest enemy to Procumbens in my backyard is A. (or I shall say would be) poor air circulation. Frequent misting can cause fungus problems if little or no air circulation is provided. And the second biggest enemy B. is a Spidermites attack. The Procumbens is an Eldorado for the little critters. They will always be around. I just have to minimize any given number at any given time on the tree. Therefore I wash all my trees, not just junipers, every day with a good shower of water from the watering hose. I do not get big manifestations.

Perhaps others can add to their experience with Procumbens nana! I'd love to hear about it.

Best,
Dorothy
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Post  efishn Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:58 pm

dorothy7774 wrote:Perhaps others can add to their experience with Procumbens nana! I'd love to hear about it.

Best,
Dorothy

Dorothy,
Our climate is ~ similar, so I wrote down your comments.

Thank you
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Post  my nellie Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:49 am

Very nice, Dorothy! Just like the rest of your work.
May I ask the pot dimensions, please?
Thank you!
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Post  Tona Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:06 pm

Very nice as usual Dorothy. Your trees always impress me. I like procumbens myself. They get a bad name because of the "malsai" reputation but I think they make great trees. I have quite a few myself. They are excellent for cascades. Thomas J. from Dallas Bonsai has some nice procumbens also.
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Post  dorothy7774 Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:47 pm

my nellie wrote:Very nice, Dorothy! Just like the rest of your work.
May I ask the pot dimensions, please?
Thank you!

Thank you! The dimension of thew pot are 5" tall, 4.5" base, 9" rim.

Best,
Dorothy
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Post  dorothy7774 Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:53 pm

Tona wrote:Very nice as usual Dorothy. Your trees always impress me. I like procumbens myself. They get a bad name because of the "malsai" reputation but I think they make great trees. I have quite a few myself. They are excellent for cascades. Thomas J. from Dallas Bonsai has some nice procumbens also.
Tona

Thank you, Tona. Yes, Thomas does have some beautiful procumbens.

Here is another cascade I had to "bring back" this morning. My Junipers grow very fast. I cannot always catch up with them. This one needs repotting soon! It has some reverse taper at the base. I am planning to fix that.

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Post  PeacefulAres Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:07 pm

Do you mind me asking where you get your lava rock?
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Post  Todd Ellis Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:52 pm

Dorothy,
I love this thread on Procumbens and your work is great. I find them to be very rewarding trees. Your large cascade looks good and mounding the dirt around the root base looks to solve your inverse taper problem; can't tell there's problem from the photo; nice tree. Your smaller ones are lovely also.
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Post  dorothy7774 Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:16 am

Thank you, Todd!

I found a picture of the tree from about 2011. That's when I transplanted it into the semi cascade pot Very Happy


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Post  Pavel Slovák Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:48 am

Yes Dorothy, great development and nice treen Very Happy
Congratulations.
Greetings Pavel
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Post  Rob C Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:24 am

Hi Dorothy... I love this tree! What a great procumbens... They can be so beautiful if one is willing to spend a bit more time with them as opposed to shimpaku. Is this a shohin?

Rob

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Post  Gary Swiech Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:36 pm

Hi Dorothy,

I love your Procumbens nana. I also like to work with this plant for bonsai.

A defining moment in my early bonsai experience was some 36 yrs ago at D-Hill nursery when I saw a large 3 1/2'-(107cm) specimen in a bonsai pot.

It was from one of their foundation plantings. This was a 100 yr old nursery, or older.

It mystified me so.......

It wasn't this one but it was from the same bunch.

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Here is one of mine that needs thinning and jinning. I agree they are hard to keep up with

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I'm in Wisconsin, USA and it gets cold up here.

Care in cold climates like mine are the same as Dorothy's except, here they like full sun all Spring, Summer and Fall. I try to keep mine

so they don't get a lot of late afternoon sun. Here we need to bring in Procumbens nana into shelter for Winter protection, early December when the night time temperature gets

consistently around 28ºF, -2ºC.

I have a cold house in my garage that I keep all my bonsai in for the Winter that I try to regulate at 28ºF.

That's where they are now.
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Post  Robert Steven Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:42 pm

Nice work..Dorothy...as usual !
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Post  dorothy7774 Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:30 pm

Gary Swiech wrote:Hi Dorothy,

I love your Procumbens nana. I also like to work with this plant for bonsai.

A defining moment in my early bonsai experience was some 36 yrs ago at D-Hill nursery when I saw a large 3 1/2'-(107cm) specimen in a bonsai pot.

It was from one of their foundation plantings. This was a 100 yr old nursery, or older.

It mystified me so.......

It wasn't this one but it was from the same bunch.

Procumbens nana progression Procum10

Awesome tree, Gary! Thank you for posting it!

Gary Swiech wrote:
Here is one of mine that needs thinning and jinning. I agree they are hard to keep up with

Procumbens nana progression Procum11

I'm in Wisconsin, USA and it gets cold up here.

Care in cold climates like mine are the same as Dorothy's except, here they like full sun all Spring, Summer and Fall. I try to keep mine

so they don't get a lot of late afternoon sun. Here we need to bring in Procumbens nana into shelter for Winter protection, early December when the night time temperature gets

consistently around 28ºF, -2ºC.

I have a cold house in my garage that I keep all my bonsai in for the Winter that I try to regulate at 28ºF.

That's where they are now.

And that is a beauty too!! Did you ever have full mature foliage on it?

Thanks,
Dorothy
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Post  dorothy7774 Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:33 pm

Pavel Slovák wrote:Yes Dorothy, great development and nice treen Very Happy
Congratulations.
Greetings Pavel

Thank you, Pavel! cheers

-Dorothy
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Post  dorothy7774 Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:34 pm

Rob C wrote:Hi Dorothy... I love this tree! What a great procumbens... They can be so beautiful if one is willing to spend a bit more time with them as opposed to shimpaku. Is this a shohin?

Rob

Thanks, Rob. No shohin, 17 inches from tip to tip. Wink

-Dorothy
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