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Post  eaton2008 Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:29 pm

i am hoping to graft 3 black pine yearlings with a friend to create a hopefuly much better shohin size tree?!

you can probably see that this tree has had a white pine grafted to it many years ago but has left an unsightly bulge(pic3,5) + bad wire marks that may never go?!

what do people think?? is it a good idea or not?? please let me know as Feb, March seem to be the time to graft pines?!

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Post  NeilDellinger Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:35 pm

Its not really a bad tree. In your 2nd photo theres some interesting movement in the trunk. Put some effort & real thought into what direction to go and you maybe surprised. I think you'd find you had a nicer tree much more quickly than if you attempted to graft JBP to this.

I'd like to see what Pavel would do with this. Hes got a demonstrated knack for turning somewhat mediocre looking materila into really stunning trees.

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Post  Tom Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:11 pm

I agree with Neil. I wonder if there's a smaller tree in there, if you cut off the main trunk just above the first branch and use the first branch as the new trunk.
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Post  AlainK Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:00 am

Tom wrote:I agree with Neil. I wonder if there's a smaller tree in there, if you cut off the main trunk just above the first branch and use the first branch as the new trunk.

I do agree with tom : with proper care, a branch this size can easily be bent. In picture 2 it's got a nice movement that can be accentuated if the branch is put forward I think.
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Post  Smithy Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:56 am

i would have been happy to have a tree like this to work with. I bet all these replys have made it hard to decide now. Smile
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Post  Guest Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:36 am

I think I would go with the shortening option, rather than grafting. Having said that, I know from previous experience that White Pine branches are extremely brittle and need careful handling.

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Post  eaton2008 Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:04 am

shortening is not out of the question, but the 1st branch is very hard to bend and looks like some damage has been caused by a previous owner?!also there is bud wire marks in places! my favourite part of the tree is the powerful nebari (from one side)?!
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Post  eaton2008 Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:33 am

its amazing what you can do in paint!!bev eat your heart out!

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