Larch yamadori - 2005

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Larch yamadori - 2005

Post  Pavel Slovák on Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:38 am

Hi friends.

I want to introduce Larch Yamadori. Colected in 2005, or 2004, I do not know. Embarassed
I decided to establish the first shape.Which direction to go? I have several versions. Smile
But I'm curious about your ideas and possible solutions. Smile
About a year ago, I began to change the position of the tribe. Unfortunately, the original situation has photos. Embarassed I marked the red line. Thanks for any suggestions. Wink

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Re: Larch yamadori - 2005

Post  dorothy7774 on Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:29 pm

Okay, I'll start with 2 suggestions.. there is a third nice way to go, I'll leave it to someone else:




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Re: Larch yamadori - 2005

Post  Pavel Slovák on Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:58 pm

Hi Dorothy, thank you very much for your virtual. Nice idea. Very Happy

I tried to create more variation. Now when viewing pictures, I would say might be still more tilt to the left. Wink

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more pict.: http://www.bonsaivigi.cz/fotoalbum/techniky-tvarovani_-pestitelske-postupy-a-vyvoj/modrin---yamadori--2005

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Post  Ronald kelly on Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:46 am

I love the virtuals that you have for the tree and the progression of the tree is is outstanding. Where did you get the software for the virtuals? And is there a free version that I can download for my personal use?

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Re: Larch yamadori - 2005

Post  anttal63 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:14 pm

Nice work Pav!!! cheers

Like your virts too dorothy cheers

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Re: Larch yamadori - 2005

Post  Pavel Slovák on Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:06 pm

Hi all.

Larch completed in a composition with the lower branches.

pict.1 - view slightly right

pict. 2 - Larch after first styling


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Re: Larch yamadori - 2005

Post  AlainK on Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:08 pm

This is very nicely done : when I saw the first photos you posted, i really wondered how you would style it in the end.

But there is something that is catching my eye : there is the very soft curve of the trunk you've bent, and the first two branches look like a horse shoe. There shape is very regular because considering the height of the tree, they look as if they were opposite branches. What's more they seem to be off the axis of the rest of the tree.

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What do you think ? Embarassed

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Re: Larch yamadori - 2005

Post  Pavel Slovák on Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:34 pm

Thank you Alain for coment. Unfortunately, this place bothers me. Wink Fortunately, only pictures. Smile In reality, I'm quite happy. I'll try taking a picture of a tree in daylight. Embarassed Smile
In reality, is a branch on the back side of the tree deployed 6 cm higher than the branch in front.
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Re: Larch yamadori - 2005

Post  AlainK on Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:16 pm

Now that you are saying it, and after looking at the other pictures again, I understand it better.

Since you are very patient with my interfering, I still think that there's something that has to be done about these two branches.

As a non-professional, old student in bonsai, I remember what I was told about "windswept" style/form/category : it's an easy way, but very few "windswept" trees look natural, and what seems an easy solution for a beginner is something difficult to achieve.

But this being said, why not :

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I find that thus, the curve marked in red in my previous post would look more "justified", and the second branch as well as the first one would be more in the overall movement suggested by the curve in the trunk...

And yes, there are real artists east of the Greenwich meridian, keep up the good work, znajomy Laughing

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Re: Larch yamadori - 2005

Post  Pavel Slovák on Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:08 pm

Hi Alain, thank you for coment and virtual. Smile
Sorry, but my idea for the future is completely different than your virtual. Wink Smile

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Re: Larch yamadori - 2005

Post  AlainK on Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:49 am

I understand : I was 100% certain you wouldn't change your mind whatever anyone suggested Laughing

So, how do you see its future ?...

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Re: Larch yamadori - 2005

Post  Pavel Slovák on Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:12 pm

Thanks Alain. Certainly any proposal, new, other solution is a good think. Smile In the future, I have mainly grow branches on the right and left of the top. The tree at the top of a light, pulled left and flowing down the trunk. Breaking ugly strain curve at the top.

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Re: Larch yamadori - 2005

Post  martin kolacia on Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:47 pm

Hi Pavel,
I think that your idea to hide trunk with the lowest branch isnt so good.

I borrowed a picture from your pages pirat ...sorry


When is tree foliaged there isnt any movement and I feel and see only simply bow Very Happy Very Happy .
Balance between a crown and low branches is a little primitive .
Volume of foliage in my opinion isnt in good balance with trunk..
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