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Post  chris on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:33 pm

Hi Simon, Hope you have got over the Belgium thing.
Sabina Junipers are European ranging from all along the Med
Into Italy and through the Eastern block, you will be told that
some areas suit UK climate better than others. Juniper Chinesis
Is native of China and Japan depending on the region or even the
Island they can be called by different names, Itagawa etc.
Its all about foliage when it comes to Bonsai and the abillity to create
a good image thats why so many garden type Junipers struggle
to ever develope tight pads .
Now someone will reply to say how to tell the difference between all
these types and good luck to them
Regards Chris
BTW Jerrys Sabina is from Romania

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Post  Tony on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:49 pm

Jeremy wrote:It was right in front of me and it was nearly my birthday. ThumbsUp
and I bought it before Tony got his hands on it clown

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Post  Jeremy on Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:05 pm

Tony wrote:
Jeremy wrote:It was right in front of me and it was nearly my birthday. ThumbsUp
and I bought it before Tony got his hands on it clown
Hi Tony,
You did alright with the 2 sabina's you bought. thumbs up
I'd be interested in your thoughts regarding simon's question
"what is the difference between a Sabina Juniper and the Chinese ones that I've seen and why does everyone go nuts over them?, ".
Tony, are you planning to repot your sabina anytime soon?

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Post  Tony on Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:31 pm

Jeremy wrote:I'd be interested in your thoughts regarding simon's question
"what is the difference between a Sabina Juniper and the Chinese ones that I've seen and why does everyone go nuts over them?, ".
Tony, are you planning to repot your sabina anytime soon?

The difference is in the foliage... but not all Sabinas are the same. The ones that you and I bought had superb 'mature' foliage and compact too... one of mine is steely gray green (the large one) the other bright green... all Enrico could say was 'Deesa arra excellent... wherea dida you getta dem' Chris says they are Romanian, I don't know where they are from... except off Isabelia.

I know that both trees have been collected at least 3 years, this was confirmed by a Belgian friend who saw them in the Czech nursery 3 years ago.

I am not repotting either until after styling (this year), then I will leave until May 2011

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Post  Jeremy on Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:39 pm

"Tony...
all Enrico could say was 'Deesa arra excellent... wherea dida you getta dem' Chris says they are Romanian, I don't know where they are from... except off Isabelia.
I asked Isabelia their origin, he told me Romania.

Tony wrote:I am not repotting either until after styling (this year), then I will leave until May 2011
Thank you, I thought I heard you say you planned to repot soon, glad to clear that up.

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Post  bonsai monkey on Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:53 pm

Thanx for the info guys. I've still got a lot to learn when it comes to the various strains of of a species.

Chris
If you mean drinking strong beer, eating too much red meat, spending too much money and singing, then yes I have got over it Very Happy

Maybe I'll do it again sometime, just don't tell the wife affraid

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Post  Jeremy on Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:57 pm

Today I cleaned up the trunk to find the life lines.


I have, for now, decided the front.


Once I have sorted the deadwood I plan to wire and give the foliage it's first styling.

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Post  Guest on Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:14 pm

Jerry. Your Sabina is very healthy looking and ready for some work. As Kevin Willson used to say on many occasions, "It's ready to rock and roll" Very Happy

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Post  Jeremy on Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:31 pm

Morea wrote:Dear Jerry
Thank You , great , got all the photoos !! Very Happy
The sabina You bought first has indeed the loaded neg. space
in the side You choose for backside.
This neg. space is for me very inspiring and interesting.
Makes the sabina different , makes one look twice !
And i love roaring neg. spaces ! Very Happy
Made You 2 virts :
* slanted , obvious styling , feels predictable and does not speak to me.

Enjoy
Kind regards
Morea
Hi Morea,
Hope you are well.
As yet i have not repotted the sabina. I'm thinking around the end of March? No firm year as yet. Wink

I wired, (with a lot of help from Chris T), and had the good sense to take the tree to a Steve Tolley's workshop. Had a great day. thumbs up Learnt a lot, i should have done it years ago.
This year with a lot of cutting back / hard pinching and a bit of live vein chasing, here is the tree today, (just as you predicted Morea).
Not your preferred option I know, but the cascaded option just fell away. Rolling Eyes



Still more work on the pads over the next few seasons, but i am happy with the progress so far.
Next I plan to delicately reduce the deadwood at the front with hand tools, until it reduces it's visual weight.

Without wishing to rekindle the debate, but this year I have been foliar feeding my trees every 2 weeks or so, with some good results. Started with the evergreen in April and then rest once they leafed.
i'm a convert. :afraid:
John Pitt you were right. There i said it.


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Post  Guest on Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:57 pm

Looks fantastic Jerry, and its grown really well too Very Happy

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Post  Smithy on Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:02 pm

Yes ,good work Jerry. I like it a lot.

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Post  dorothy7774 on Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:34 am

It's nice. However,I also liked the "ellbow" front. Wink dorothy


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Post  Jeremy on Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:32 pm

Hi Will,
Thanks,
It was a great relief to see the new growth and colour.
I have cut back hard and recently pinched into a profile, but it ins still extending fast at the tips.

Smithy,
Thank you. Glad you like it.
Looking forwards to see you on the 5th.

dorothy7774 wrote:It's nice. However,I also liked the "ellbow" front. Wink dorothy

Dorothy,
Love it. If only.....
.....it is, just the this front has the shari rolling straight into the ground and is far too under. This to my eye makes it a very weak base and unusable as the front.

The front used is not perfect, but does come out of the ground with more strength and grips the soil well.
A clearer view of the under cut shari.




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Post  Stone Monkey on Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:44 pm

Coming on a bomb Jerry! I luv it

All the best

Andy

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Post  bonsai monkey on Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:28 pm

Hi Jerry,
Fantastic!!!!
It's hard (for me at any rate) to believe that it's the same tree that I saw in Belguim affraid
I really can't wait to see it again in the flesh as i know that pictures don't always do the trees justice.

Keep well buddy and I hope to catch up soon,
Okk, Okk,
Simon

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I've heard alot of good reports about Mr Tolley's work. Maybe when I've got a few coppers.................

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Post  Bob Bailey on Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:33 pm

Hi Gerry
the sabina is a fantastic piece of material and I can understand people enthusing about it,but what about your other purchase the itagowa?a truely great looking tree and with a little work cauld be on the show circuit in a very short time.
Did you buy it from Martin ? and is it shohin or chuhin?
Terry, Reg and I hope to see you all on 5th sept
Cheers BB
P.S Cow pie and Welsh cakes ?

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Post  Jeremy on Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:24 pm

jole wrote:Hi Gerry
the sabina is a fantastic piece of material and I can understand people enthusing about it,but what about your other purchase the itagowa?a truely great looking tree and with a little work cauld be on the show circuit in a very short time.
Did you buy it from Martin ? and is it shohin or chuhin?
Terry, Reg and I hope to see you all on 5th sept
Cheers BB
P.S Cow pie and Welsh cakes ?

Hi Jole,
I have pm'd you re. the Itogawa. ThumbsUp
Cow pie and welsh cakes, that's got to be a dead cert.
Looking forwards to seeing you all. Are you coming to the Saturday 4th Sept. workshop?

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Post  Jeremy on Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:27 pm

Stone Monkey wrote:Coming on a bomb Jerry! I luv it

All the best

Andy

Thanks Andy.
Any ideas on a pot?

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Post  Jeremy on Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:29 pm

bonsai monkey wrote:Hi Jerry,
Fantastic!!!!
It's hard (for me at any rate) to believe that it's the same tree that I saw in Belguim affraid
I really can't wait to see it again in the flesh as i know that pictures don't always do the trees justice.

Keep well buddy and I hope to catch up soon,
Okk, Okk,
Simon

PS
I've heard alot of good reports about Mr Tolley's work. Maybe when I've got a few coppers.................

Hi Simon,
IMHO Steve is worth every penny.

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Post  Bob Brunt on Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:14 pm

Hi Jerry
I keep coming back to re read this thread.I love this tree.Are you bringing it to Burrs?
Assuming you are coming to Burrs ! thumbs up

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Post  Jeremy on Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:38 pm

Hi Bob,
Thanks, me to.
That's a yes and yes. Very Happy

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