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Post  Fuzzy on Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:50 pm

As promised the hollow elm stump collected over the weekend. I’ve dug me bunker and am wearing a hard hat so fire away guys! Personally I think this stump offers a lot of potential. I’m just trying to work out which of the two leaders to remove, any ideas Will? If you need more pics to decide I shall provide! Smile






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Post  Jay Gaydosh on Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:26 pm

Just me, personally, looking at the 1st photo, I would remove the back trunk and then push to get some new growth before making additional decisions on where to go next.

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Post  Fuzzy on Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:01 pm

Cheers Jay! Smile

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Post  andy mcconnell on Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:29 pm

fuzzy
great stump loads of potential!!!!!!!!!!!!
i would cut the back leader off and cut the next one down to the small shoot coming out at an angle and let it grow away for a year
great material have fun
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Post  Guest on Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:40 am

Time to come out of your fox hole Russ ThumbsUp I really like the look of this but I need to see more angles. The deadwood at the base might have to go, as it looks soft. Bring it on Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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Post  JimLewis on Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:06 am

[quote="will baddeley"]Time to come out of your fox hole Russ ThumbsUp I really like the look of this but I need to see more angles. The deadwood at the base might have to go, as it looks soft. Bring it on Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy[/quote

I agree. I've dug many a similar stump. They usually are short lived -- either because of punky wood, termites, or just plain ill health.

There is a reason they became diseased-looking stumps.

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Post  Fuzzy on Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:08 am

Thank you Andy, Will. Jim. I agree about the rear leader removal, nice to have it confirmed. You’re quite right about the dead wood sticking out being soft. I was in two minds whether to try preserving it or just let it rot away over the years though my main priority is to try to gain vigour and heath in the tree over the coming year. The two leaders showed nice healthy looking buds and wood at the tips. The roots also show no visible disease. I’ll try and get some more shots for you to see when it stops raining.

Will, Jim Any special tips on ensuring it‘s recovery as I‘d hate to lose this one?
Many thanks Smile

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Post  Guest on Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:45 am

If I was a gambling man, I would put money on this Elm surviving. I have collected countless Elms over the years and even in my novice collecting days, have'nt lost one! Jim sounds worried about the rot at the base, I have no concerns as elm wood is'nt long lasting in an out door environment, without treatment that is. Any soft wood should be removed though. Crumble what you can with your fingers, wire brush the rest and treat with a fungicide and insecticide. One application of each will do. Get out in the rain and take some more shots, you big sissy Very Happy

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Post  Fuzzy on Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:08 pm

Thanks Will much appreciated and as for being a sissy I’m not the one wearing a dress! lol!
Regards Erica xxx Laughing

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Post  Harleyrider on Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:35 pm

I agree with removing the back stump. The front one has more movement. It'd be nice to try and save as much of the deadwood as you can, Eric. It'll make a great feature.

BTW, my wife thinks Will's avatar looks more like Ozzy Osborne than Frank Gallagher. Cool SHAAAROOOON!

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Post  Fuzzy on Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:44 pm

Cheers Harleyrider,
I agree that losing the dead wood would be a shame as it does add to the trees character but it is very fragile so I’ll wait till spring and consider applying wood hardener.

I think we’re all agreed then, the rear shall go!
Thanks for the input. Smile

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Post  Guest on Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:24 pm

I did'nt want to give my opinion until I'd seen more picture angles but as none have turned up( wet, cold and now dark and far to scary affraid ), I'll give my two pennies worth. I think both leaders need to come off. Neither is interesting in comparison with the trunk. Eliminate the back one as suggested and reduce the front one by half before growth starts, to promote back budding on the front leader.

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Post  Guest on Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:05 am

Fuzzy wrote:Cheers Harleyrider,
I agree that losing the dead wood would be a shame as it does add to the trees character but it is very fragile so I’ll wait till spring and consider applying wood hardener.

I think we’re all agreed then, the rear shall go!
Thanks for the input. Smile

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The application of wood hardener on existing rotten wood, is a waste of time. I only apply wood hardener to strong wood. If for instance, I carve some green wood(wet), I leave out the detail at this point because the wood is fluffy. Let the wood season for at least a couple of months, then detail carve. After this I then apply the hardener. The time between initial carve and finished carve is important study time for how to finish the design.

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Post  NeilDellinger on Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:21 pm

Enrique,
I see a pretty nice possibility for a little semi cascade in one of those photos Lots of character in the hollow. You really should scrape out the rotted wood until you hit harder less "fluffy" wood. Char it and wire brush it when you're done. This will help ensure it wont continue to rot.
One thing to note: If you have a hollow, make sure water can escape or you'll have more "fluffy wood" down the road.

Pretty nice little stump though. Will make a great tree quickly if you are decisive in getting rid of those stumps as Will suggested and build branches using the character of the trunk.

Will I heard they had something to cure wood fluff now Twisted Evil

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Post  Guest on Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:41 pm

Steady on Neil, Steady on!!!! Very Happy Very Happy

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Post  andy mcconnell on Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:58 pm

fuzzy
if it was mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!then let it grow for a year
my first try changing pictures


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Post  andy mcconnell on Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:02 pm

one of my stumps
kinda looks familiar


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Post  NeilDellinger on Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:55 pm

Andy,
What type of elm is this?

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Post  NeilDellinger on Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:20 pm

Andy,
Thats a chunk of wood man! Have you had much luck with siberian elm? I've not tried them...but they've got a bad wrap for bonsai.

Cant wait to see what you do with this stump.

Neil

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Post  andy mcconnell on Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:43 pm

thanks neil
i have had loads of luck with these tress..and very little trouble with them
i cant wait for spring to get this tree growing..not sure if i will plant it in the ground to really thicken the new leader or keep it potted
first time out of the ground took two of us a couple of hours and a lot of sweat
heres some more garden grown,cuttings, and layers
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layers and cuttings



collected





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Post  NeilDellinger on Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:19 pm

Thanks Andy. Lots of great projects in the works there!

Nice work.

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Post  Joe Hatfield on Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:35 pm

I see more of a taper on the forward leader . I would agree to removing the back one. Looks like it will make a decent project.

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