ELMER - small moves and BIG MOVES

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ELMER - small moves and BIG MOVES

Post  kevin stoeveken on Sat Apr 28, 2018 3:13 pm

some of you may remember this urbandori Siberian Elm I have posted in the past...

some small moves executed and see below re: a possible big move



I have a (sorta) strict rule about working on trees while imbibing in spirits drunken
So I love using these produce tags for contemplation of moves to be considered in another frame of mind... scratch













and THIS would be the BIG move:





I have really struggled with that part of the tree over the past few years...
it would not be entirely eliminated, but instead i would convert the upper part to another deadwood spire feature...

feel free to chime in with thoughts...

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Post  breck on Mon May 07, 2018 7:23 pm

To my eyes the tree looks as if it is bent over backwards and unstable , also from your photos the right hand trunk appears to have negative taper .
IMHO i would remove the right trunk leaving a short hollow deadwood end then grow the left trunk branches to the left. A nice tree good luck with it

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Post  kevin stoeveken on Mon May 07, 2018 7:42 pm

the reduction of the right hand trunk is part of the big move that WAS being contemplated...
contemplation over and work has begun...

the comment about it appearing "bent over backwards" and "unstable" seems odd...
care to clarify ?

(before replying i tried to find some examples of your work, here on the forum, but was unsuccessful - have you posted any ?)

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Post  breck on Mon May 07, 2018 8:51 pm

Sorry if I was being to critical, you asked for readers thoughts I was trying to be helpful.I have not yet posted photos of my trees watch this space and feel free to comment

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Post  kevin stoeveken on Tue May 08, 2018 12:19 pm

please dont get me wrong, (which is easy to do in this typed format of communicating)

I was wondering what you meant by "bent over backwards" and "unstable" ?
please clarify...


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Post  BobbyLane on Tue May 08, 2018 9:59 pm

I like this tree Kevin. has movement and character with the aged bark, removing one of the trunks would make it too ordinary. i think as an informal broom image...it will be fine to have a little inverse, on this particular image. i can see the piece youve taken out will stop the area swelling even more, so good move.
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Post  kevin stoeveken on Wed May 09, 2018 5:31 pm

Thanks Bobby...
as a refresher for those interested, here is a previous thread on this tree:

http://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/t16619-repotting-elmer-and-some-progression?highlight=elmer

So like i said, I did begin the work, but more to come...









I have been learning that being gentle in the bark removal reveals the work that the tree has already done on my behalf Wink



The new apical deadwood will be made to look similar to the shorter one, and also brought further down the trunk to begin reducing the bulge in that trunk line...
The crown of the tree will now be developed to complement this work...

Milwaukee is hosting MABA in 2020 and I have hopes for this tree making the show... Idea



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