Walter Pall Feeding Method - Thoughts?

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Walter Pall Feeding Method - Thoughts?

Post  Shayn on Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:10 pm

Hey guys,

I have been reading up on a few things bonsai related recently, and came across Walter Pall's method for feeding. Does anyone here have first hand experience regarding this? I am super keen on trying this method as it makes complete sense to do so. My watering routine is basically exactly as he states he does, so no problems there. However, my substrate is not that great. Its good, but not great. I am using around 75-80% grit, and the remaining 20-25% is a mixture of organic premixed bonsai soil(Culterra) and cleaned river sand. Personally, the premix bonsai soil is a joke - but I am now stuck with 4 bags of the stuff.

I digress...

The thought behind the excessive feeding goes hand in hand with using mostly inorganic substrates such as akadema, pumice, leca and a variety of other lava based stone ; and aggressive watering(as I mentioned before, I do this anyway). However, will the fact that I am using grit instead of a lava based stone be detrimental to my trees? (If I were to begin this mass feeding, which I really want to do) All of my trees are in the same substrate mentioned above. The only exception is my Ficus Benjamina Variegata, which unfortunately had to go into a training pot with 80-90% organic premix, and 10-20% small stones.(budgeting will be the death of me). Currently I am using a bonsai feeder called "Bonsai Boost", created by a fellow South African bonsai artist, and it works damn well! However, I would like to begin WP's method of feeding since I have alot of other plant and flower feeders which I would hate to see go to waste.

If you have not read WP's feeding method, please mention so that I can post a link for all.
I have many other questions to ask, but for now, if anyone could respond to my questions so far, that would be great.

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Post  kevin stoeveken on Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:49 pm

if you have watched WPs talk on Youtube re fertilizing and substrate, then you know that the 2 go hand-in-hand...

the mix you use seems surprising to me, but you are in SA and i am in northern US...
very different climates (though i am fond of, and have/had SA trees such as spekboom, bull horn acacia, etc)

the suprising thing to me about your substrate is what seems to be such a small proportion of anything that will actually hold onto anything throughout the course of what i assume to be some very hot summer days...

substrate, should not only drain well, but should also hold onto some of that water (and nutrients) so it is accessible to the roots in between waterings.

BUT BUT BUT - hopefully folks from your climate will be see this and chime in

(cue: ANDRE ???)

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Post  AlainK on Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:16 pm

kevin stoeveken wrote: (...)

the suprising thing to me about your substrate is what seems to be such a small proportion of anything that will actually hold onto anything throughout the course of what i assume to be some very hot summer days...

substrate, should not only drain well, but should also hold onto some of that water (and nutrients) so it is accessible to the roots in between waterings.
(...)

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Post  geoffm5eay on Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:54 pm

I think you need to be very very careful about changing something so radical just because you see or hear it. What works for one may not work for you. I have fallen into this trap, and never will again. I am not saying it is wrong, but I would not change just for the sake of it, not with all my trees anyway, maybe one I did not mind losing.

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Post  kevin stoeveken Yesterday at 12:29 pm

the Walter Pall method is not really "radical" or "extreme"...
to the contrary, it is inexpensive and easy, but again, and as Walter says:

All parts must be in play and a big part of those parts is the substrate.

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Post  geoffm5eay Yesterday at 3:27 pm

I am not saying no one should do it, but I am saying that you need to be careful about changing a regime. You are also saying that the substrate needs to be a particular kind. Again, I had a bad experience which also caused serious problems with my trees because I changed the soil on the advice of an "expert".
What works for me is what I will continue to do, and I am not going to change just because someone says that it is the bees knees!
It may be fantastic but I do not intend to find out if it is.

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