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Post  Vitusus on Sat May 13, 2017 8:53 pm




Hi everyone, I just brought this pine from local bonsai show and I forgot to ask what variety it is, can you help me with the identification?

And second question, when is the best time to repot i from this ugly plastic thing to some nicer pot?

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Post  bilbo on Sun May 14, 2017 12:06 am

How many needles per fascicle?
Can you post some close ups of the candles and the bark (in focus)?

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Post  Vitusus on Sun May 14, 2017 9:22 am






Hope this helps, the needles are there by 2 per fascicle.

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Re: Pine identification needed

Post  Vance Wood on Sun May 14, 2017 2:40 pm

Looks like Mugo Pine.
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Post  bilbo on Sun May 14, 2017 2:57 pm

Mugo? Hmmm, maybe but I was thinking Scots Pine (Pinus sylvestris).

Would be nice for identification if there were some cones, but ...

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Post  Vitusus on Sun May 14, 2017 4:09 pm

If we assume that one of you is right, are there any significant differences in what I can do to the tree? In particular, when they can be repotted?

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Post  Vance Wood on Mon May 15, 2017 2:17 am

Vitusus wrote:If we assume that one of you is right, are there any significant differences in what I can do to the tree? In particular, when they can be repotted?

First of all the bark does not look like Scots. Bark on a Scots Pine is a bit more cinnamon in color and the bark on a Mugo is much darker with no hint of cinnamon. Both trees can be treated in a similar manner. However repotting can be problematic. I do both species in the middle of the Summer but I live in Michigan and I don't touch the roots before the Summer solstice. You will probably be safe in your part of the world to go with early Spring.
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Post  Vitusus on Mon May 15, 2017 10:30 am

Well, if I read the map correctly, Michigan is around 45th degree of northern latitude, while my place is around 50th degree so a bit more to the North. I guess that the summer repotting as a best time still could apply to my place as well, what do you think? I am not sure about the quality of the soil in the plastic container it looks quite heavy and not draining too well, hopefully it will survive in there by the summer, it's a few months only, I will let it grow by then and feed and water it.

On the styling note, I am thinking of using the part to the right in the design, and use the lef low branch as a sacrifice branch to thicken up the base of the tree, what do you think about it? After summer repot and some pruning of this year's growth to promote some back budding, I will leave it as it is till next year and it is well, I might wire it a bit next autumn? Or when is it best time to wire these?

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Post  Dirk Hoorelbeke on Mon May 15, 2017 2:03 pm

Mugo

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