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Cascade Ponderosa Pine

Post  Michael T on Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:44 am

I recently picked this ponderosa pine up and am struggling a bit with what to do with it.

I can pull the upper branch completely back and upward into the main descending trunk creating an apex, but that will leave a lot of space between it and the lower limb.

Or, I can bring it over and on top of the lower branch but then that leaves a very long trunk from base to foliage.



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Post  Marty Weiser on Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:43 am

What about bringing the around in front of the trunk slightly below its current position to form a pad and then developing a lower pad from the extension of the main trunk? The branch could even be two related pads.

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Post  kevin stoeveken on Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:44 pm

just a note of caution... at the walter pall bonsai academy, he indicated that pines do not like to have a branch below the roots and will try to cast it off...
(not so with junipers and other "evergreens")

i do not know if that holds true when ALL of the foliage is below the roots as in this case, as that would effectively be suicide...
but you may be in a constant struggle to maintain vigor...

it would be my guess that the current orientation may not be how it was actually growing.
and of course i say that without seeing how the roots are structured, but all of that should be taken in consideration when making design decisions.

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Post  yamasuri on Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:06 pm

Very interesting observation Kevin. I would agree with you.
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Post  Michael T on Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:43 pm

I did actually wonder if it had a different orientation at some point. I don't believe it has. It does appear to emerge from the root zone in a manner that suggests that's the way its grown.

If I bring the primary up I could also dispense with the lower branch.

But this is sort what I have in mind.

http://www.bonsaimirai.com/bonsai/limber-pine-no-6?width=1060&height=700

Obviously not of the same caliber.

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Post  kevin stoeveken on Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:35 pm

if ryan is doing something like that, then maybe they do not cast off a branch below the soil if that is the ONLY foliage there is...

but i would also be willing to bet that ryans was also not growing as now oriented...

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Post  M. Frary on Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:50 pm

Tip it so the foliage is above the roots.

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Post  kevin stoeveken on Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:40 pm

yeah mike... thats what our guy steve is doing with his...

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Post  M. Frary on Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:10 pm

beer city snake wrote:yeah mike... thats what our guy steve is doing with his...
Smart man.

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