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Post  bonsaisr on Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:46 am

I bought this little fella at the holiday blind auction. I was told it is a Pyracantha. The leaves look OK, but it has oval berries, like a barberry. I Googled a load of pictures of Pyracantha, but the berries were all perfectly round. Any ideas?
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Re: Another ID Question

Post  David Brunner on Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:19 am

Hello Iris - I hope your holidays are progressing nicely!

I think you are on the right track with barberry, Berberis.  Have you already ruled that out?  The fruit shape, spines, and fruiting in the axils sure looks like a Berberis to me.  Berberis julianae looks similar to yours but its leaves are much more sharply toothed.  I am not that familiar with the temperate barberries so I hope someone else will recognize it.  I agree with you that this is not Pyracantha.

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Post  bonsaisr on Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:09 am


Since we started here & you folks already have the picture, I would like to discuss styling. At present, as my mother would say, nisht geshtoygen; nisht gefloygen (it doesn't stand; it doesn't fly). I could straighten the trunk more upright to a tree with three main branches or trunks. However, I don't think it would be very graceful, and it would take years to look like anything. My choice would be to bury the trunk and make it a three trunk raft clump style, which would be more like its natural habit. The trunk still has a little give, so I might curve it a bit, so the three stems are not in a straight line. Either way, I would remove the other very small stems. Any other suggestions? confused
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Last edited by bonsaisr on Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:41 pm; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : Not a barberry)

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Re: Another ID Question

Post  William N. Valavanis on Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:18 am

Iris, if you look carefully, I think those berries are on a short twig which was just stuck in the soil. Try lifting it. The tree is a Pyracantha.
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Post  bonsaisr on Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:51 am

Hah! You're right. Why would anyone do that?
Anyway, Bill, can you comment on my styling idea? It would work just as well with a Pyracantha.
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Re: Another ID Question

Post  William N. Valavanis on Wed Dec 30, 2015 3:00 am


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Post  bonsaisr on Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:40 pm

Thank you so much. A bushy little slanted shohin tree. I will try it in the spring. Very Happy
Happy and healthy new year.
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Re: Another ID Question

Post  JimLewis on Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:40 pm

William N. Valavanis wrote:Iris, if you look carefully, I think those berries are on a short twig which was just stuck in the soil. Try lifting it. The tree is a Pyracantha.
Bill

Bill beat me to it.

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Re: Another ID Question

Post  Kev Bailey on Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:01 pm

The vendor probably wanted to indicate, to you, which colour berries your plant will eventually have.

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