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Collecting new material help

Post  whriley on Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:01 am

First let me express I am NEW NEW NEW to this.
second I live in Northeastern NY about 20 miles North of Albany
3rd I am limited to what I can find in my yard
4th I love the idea of thick truck bonsai

images below show a choke cherry air layered this past spring that I intend to chop this fall? or do I wait till spring? and Ideas what to eliminate?
2 oaks to consider, thoughts?
a beach I want to air layer that was noticed after tearing vines from the tree, would like to air layer at a steep angle to preserve the dead wood for carving and the thick trunk of the curvy branches above.

be gentle... I am new and am limited to what I can collect... the oaks I figured on chopping in early spring and waiting to see what they produce.


























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Re: Collecting new material help

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:52 am

Whriley,

suggestions -

[1] Read up on ground growing for trunk thickening, also placement of the first 6 branches, and proportion, with regards to how a tree grows.

[2] Try not to annoy Jim Lewis with images that are on their side.

[3] Do some images of what you want your efforts to grow into. How tall, how thick the trunk and so on.

[4] Above all else learn to keep your plants healthy.

Keep us informed.
Laters.
Khaimraj

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Post  JimLewis on Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:03 pm

Try not to annoy Jim Lewis with images that are on their side.

Too late.  Damned camera phones anyway.  Get a camera!

On your questions.  You can chop the chokecherry now.  I suggest about 6 inches above the branches growing from the old stump. Let them resprout in the spring and THEN decide which new shoots to keep.  Oak . . . wait until spring.  Beech, the American species is VERY difficult to do into a decent bonsai.

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Post  whriley on Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:39 am

JimLewis wrote:
Try not to annoy Jim Lewis with images that are on their side.

Too late.  Damned camera phones anyway.  Get a camera!

On your questions.  You can chop the chokecherry now.  I suggest about 6 inches above the branches growing from the old stump. Let them resprout in the spring and THEN decide which new shoots to keep.  Oak . . . wait until spring.  Beech, the American species is VERY difficult to do into a decent bonsai.

odd thing about the photos is that they view as vertical on my PC before I linked them.
Thanks for the input.
as for the beech, is it because of leaf size or do they simply not respond well to the root trimming and such? I love the way the branches naturally curve and twist, and have a number of them available to me... maples and oaks too. but all at straight with no low branches.

I want to focus on thick trunks to very thick... the smaller don't interest me as much.
The choke cherry is really smaller than I wanted but I wanted to test air layering without damaging the tree.
I may get some old apple air layers from neighbors.

I will share and inform as I progress... thanks for the tips...

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