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Post  tsman on Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:57 am

Some stones I picked up yesterday. They has been washed only in water. Now I have to see which ones are good for suiseki and which ones not. And of course what is the best treatment to the deep clean of each one.

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Post  tsman on Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:00 am

Sorry. I can not post the links to the pics . The forum said to me: 'New members are not allowed to post external links or emails for 7 days. Please contact the forum administrator for more information.' :-( a good rule to do new friends.

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Re: New stones

Post  Guest on Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:17 am

Hi Tsman

Welcome to the IBC...hope to see many stones from you Smile
Why not just post the photos direct, this is a much more nicer way.

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Re: New stones

Post  tsman on Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:26 pm

Thanks Yvonne, I will try it later. The pics are big and they need to much time...

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Try 3

Post  tsman on Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:09 pm

Sorry I can not upload any pic I will look for other alternatives.

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Re: New stones

Post  JimLewis on Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:34 pm

Here is a tutorial of posting pics. You can reduce the size of the pictures you take with a graphics/photo management software package. Many are free.

http://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/t243-b-tutorial-on-posting-pics

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Re: New stones

Post  tsman on Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:18 pm

Thanks Jimm, the problem is the final link, at the end I have a 'pic-link', and the forum do not allow me to publish it. It has no sense in my opinion...

I will try again but...



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Re: New stones

Post  Guest on Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:27 pm

I have ben a member of this forum for some years now....not long ago I suddenly had the same problem...after 10 days was it gone. and I could post again.

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Re: New stones

Post  tsman on Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:03 pm

The link to a public folder you can copy&paste to see the pics. When I can upload them I will change the urls for the pics.

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This is one of my favourites, its very heavy with good color and texture.  
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/20150827_101711.jpg

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Very nice too.
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/20150827_101733.jpg
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An island? I have doubts with this stone.
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/20150827_101752.jpg

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Amazing pattern, I have to think the best way to clean it in order to highlight the pattern.
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/20150827_101844.jpg

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Good tower
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/20150827_102333.jpg


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Monkey head
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/20150827_102145.jpg

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Very interesting stone, but I have doubts with it, I have to see it and think about  his future..
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/20150827_102243.jpg

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Post  Guest on Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:22 pm

Hi tsman

The stones that caught my eye....was the island, I would like to se more pics of this stone....amazing patern...leave the stone outside in sun and rain for as long as it takes, and the stone will clean up...good tower, I would like to se if the stone can be placed diffrent , maybe on the side?....last stone, I would like to se more pics of this stone.

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Re: New stones

Post  tsman on Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:42 pm

Thanks Ivonne,
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Island 2
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/20150827_101800.jpg

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Pattern 2
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/20150827_101851.jpg

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Tower 2 and 3
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/20150827_102343.jpg
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/20150827_102356.jpg
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Interesting 2
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/20150827_102252.jpg
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Now I am cleaning some of them, in the next days I will update the pics, for sure we can see more details.

If you like the Island, probably this stone is for you too.
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/20150827_101903.jpg
It is very very interesting in the hand, but it is broken in a corner :-( so ...

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Re: New stones

Post  Guest on Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:54 am

Hi Tsman

Have ben looking at your pictures...

I could find the image of a bamboo sprout in this stone...not the best sprout, but an useful option.


It is not easy for me to tell if the stone has a small cave or shelter in the middle...if it has, is the stone of some interest, if not, is it maybe better to find a another stone


Would like to see more pics of this stone


The last stone is a good one, a keeper...human shaped, with the look of Darma... find some photos here https://www.google.dk/search?q=daruma&biw=1024&bih=702&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CDAQ7AlqFQoTCPLH2ve0y8cCFcIFLAodr98Asg#tbm=isch&q=daruma+woodcarving&imgrc=0tbsAXI63dqQNM%3A

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Post  tsman on Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:44 pm

Thanks for your comments Yvonne.

The stones are drying at the sun right now and some undesirable cracks are appearing  Sad .  I have not very high expectations with some of the stones. It is a pity.

Tomorrow I will update the pics little a little

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Re: New stones

Post  Guest on Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:55 pm

Cracks is OK, they are natural in stones, it is not the same as broken...please look at other peoples posts on IBC.

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Re: New stones

Post  Chris Cochrane on Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:35 pm

Unhealed cracks are not okay. Any open cracks & especially cracks with chipped edges should be avoided as unsightly & distracting. A crack is no more "natural" than a recent break. To the extent that a crack draws attention away from the solidity of a stone, it breaks the the illusion of a miniature object expressing the timelessness of nature.

Stones with closed cracks should be avoided if the crack is noticeable. Wetted stones will hold water longer in closed cracks than elsewhere across the stone's surface. This is distracting for appreciation of the stone's drying surface.

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Post  Guest on Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:52 pm

Chris Cochrane wrote:Unhealed cracks are not okay.  Any open cracks & especially cracks with chipped edges should be avoided as unsightly & distracting.  A crack is no more "natural" than a recent break.  To the extent that a crack draws attention away from the solidity of a stone, it breaks the the illusion of a miniature object expressing the timelessness of nature.

Stones with closed cracks should be avoided if the crack is noticeable.  Wetted stones will hold water longer in closed cracks than elsewhere across the stone's surface.  This is distracting for appreciation of the stone's drying surface.

I totally agre with you on the second part, Chris...

I would have to see examples to fully understand you, in the first part of your reply.

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The Pattern

Post  tsman on Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:47 pm

Here are a couple of pics about the 'Pattern stone'. The crack eclipses the pattern and now I only can see that damn crack . Also the crack is around the whole rock so it is only a matter of time the stone will be crash in two parts.

I could try to hide the crack brushing the stone with some product, but the stone never will be a 'great' suiseki. So i think the best option is to discard it. :-(.

dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/Pattern/20150829_172632.jpg

dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/Pattern/Screenshot_2015-08-29-17-52-12.jpg

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The 'Half bridge'

Post  tsman on Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:54 pm

I see some options for this stone.
a) The first one is to do a bridge completing the stone with the daiza.
b) The second one is to do the typical 'sea rock' and perhaps I prefer this one.

I have to think and to see more the stone before to make the decision.

a- A Bridge?
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/TheHalfBridge/20150829_172840.jpg
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/TheHalfBridge/Screenshot_2015-08-29-17-48-49.jpg

b- Or 'sea rock'.
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/TheHalfBridge/20150829_172912.jpg
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/TheHalfBridge/Screenshot_2015-08-29-17-50-25.jpg

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Post  Guest on Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:43 pm

tsman wrote:Here are a couple of pics about the 'Pattern stone'. The crack eclipses the pattern and now I only can see that damn crack . Also the crack is around the whole rock so it is only a matter of time the stone will be crash in two parts.

I could try to hide the crack brushing the stone with some product, but the stone never will be a 'great' suiseki. So i think the best option is to discard it. :-(.

dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/Pattern/20150829_172632.jpg

dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/Pattern/Screenshot_2015-08-29-17-52-12.jpg

It appears you like, what I think is the backside Smile

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Post  Guest on Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:46 pm

tsman wrote:I see some options for this stone.
a) The first one is to do a bridge completing the stone with the daiza.
b) The second one is to do the typical 'sea rock' and perhaps I prefer this one.

I have to think and to see more the stone before to make the decision.

a- A Bridge?
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/TheHalfBridge/20150829_172840.jpg
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/TheHalfBridge/Screenshot_2015-08-29-17-48-49.jpg

b- Or 'sea rock'.
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/TheHalfBridge/20150829_172912.jpg
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/TheHalfBridge/Screenshot_2015-08-29-17-50-25.jpg

I dont think A bridge works...Sea rock could, but it look to me like you are not showing us the entire stone right from the front, but keep the right side more in the front...could you send a another pick....also a birdview, and a pick from the backside

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Re: New stones

Post  tsman on Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:21 am

Two mp4 with the stones.

I think 'The pattern' stone has no future as suiseki due the crack. And the 'bridge' one need some time to show us its real shape :-).

dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/Pattern/ThePattern.mp4

dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5287635/stones/TheHalfBridge/TheBridge.mp4


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Re: New stones

Post  Guest on Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:13 am

tsman

I can not open the two links...the crack you talk about in the picturestone is not a crack...it is a natural sedimentline in the stone, were it is placed on the stone can you like it or not like, but to call it a crack is wrong.
a blow to the stone could have given the stone a thin closed crackline, that would have ben a unwanted crack, but not this one.

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Post  tsman on Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:52 pm

Thanks Yvonne, I will left the stone some months outside and we will see the evolution of the line.

The links work fine, perhaps you need to download them to see the videos , they are about 250M, they need a while to start.

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Post  Guest on Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:05 am

I agre with you, the line on the patern stone does not look good, even if it is on the backside...if it is a crack or sedimentline, can I not tell from the photo, but ugly it is.

The other video could I not uploade right, I only saw few seconds, but the stone look interesting, please send photos from the front the back and birdview, not a video.

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Re: New stones

Post  Chris Cochrane on Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:58 pm

Hi tsman...   On Friday, I attempted to transfer a few of your photos to server which host IBC photos (iservimg), but repeatedly the effort changed formatting-- making the photos too small to be useful & in some cases the photos were rotated 180 degrees.  For example (transferred to IBC's server for viewing here)...




Now, I see your mp4 videos which much more clearly identify a crack in the nicely textured-pattern stone as well as in the stone identified as a "half bridge." While I would recommend selecting whole stones (without cracks or recent breaks) for the lengthy process of aging, these stones have much character  & you hopefully will find others that are more solid.  Wet-aged stones typically lighten with aging before beginning to form a skin that reveals the transluscence of the original stone's matrix material.  Wet aging begins by opening a stone's pores.

For suiseki appreciation, you do not want to display superficial staining that clouds (or in the worst cases even covers) the stone's mineral composition.

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