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Post  marc74 Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:33 pm

New house and found this in the garden and thought it may have some potential for an air layer.

the process is quite new to me but I have read a few articles.

Unsure of this species, I had initially thought was a cotoneaster but now Im thinking it is not and just has some contoneaster around it.

Is the species possible to layer?
Will I get back bud? the base trunk is a couple of foot away from the 1st leaves.

If a layer does take do I need to take the top leaves with it and hope for back bud or cut it down and hope forces lower growth?


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your suggestions and thought appreciated


thanks

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Post  DreadyKGB Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:51 pm

Although better pictures would help, my guess is that it is a form of honeysuckle(Lonicera). The peeling bark, twisting trunk, and straight cane growth make me think this. If I am correct then it can be airlayered or ripped from the ground and still survive. It will back bud but don't cut off any budding branches until after the airlayer has established itself and begun to back bud. Any green growth above the airlayer is going to help it strengthen and grow roots. I would personally dig it out as they are shallow rooting and will have many fine roots near the trunk.


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Post  Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:52 pm

once you know what that is, i would just trunk chop it way down leaving it a little less than 3 bricks tall
(bricks being my only reference point in the photo)

if, that is, the species will react favourably to that sort of work...
and then just leave it in the ground to develop new branches before digging it up and potting her up.

i suggest that because that is a pretty interesting chunk of trunk you have there !
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Post  marc74 Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:16 pm

2 good suggestions and could be better than air layer, not sure it would be easy to cut the ring around such an old bark

Maybe a trunk chop soon then and another time see where roots go

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Post  marc74 Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:18 pm

Have to see if will split from other trunk also

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Post  Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:49 pm

marc74 wrote:Have to see if will split from other trunk also
of course that being for later when you see what develops on which trunk... Wink
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Post  marc74 Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:23 pm

Of course Smile

maybe a cut around here
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Post  marc74 Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:47 am

not sure an idea to try split and dig up later now


another looks and its clear its 4 trunks coming out of the ground so if i split id have to be clever enough to leave some and ensure survives

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Post  Kevin S - Wisco Bonsai Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:54 pm

have you found out what it is yet ?

i would get that sussed out first to make sure it will react as desired...
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Post  marc74 Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:47 pm

its cut down now and took the other branches off but then realized nothing left apart from the stump i left. it was intertwined with the other bushes so gard to tell what came from where

a nice stump left and i did notice some green low down, lets see what happens this year

ill post any growth in a few months maybe




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