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Post  dick benbow on Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:32 pm

For years I have been hopeful in finding a hut stone. But somehow it has avoided me discovering it.

I found this stone thinking it might pass for one and hopeful the roof would look like a covering of snow.

I haven't carved a daiza for it yet because I'm not convinced it will look like a hut stone, tho in the photo it sets atop a coaster to hold a drink. Photo could be better but I think it's clear enough for opinions...

What do you think? Is it a hut stone? worth the effort to create a dai?

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Post  JimLewis on Sun Dec 14, 2014 1:21 am

Works for me. It even has a door.

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Post  dick benbow on Sun Dec 14, 2014 1:31 am

Thanks Jim....

I have this cracy idea on the diaza, in that section that jim noticed a door , that the daiza be carved right in front of the doorway to look like steps? Not certainly conventional, but maybe welcoming enough to make it look more believeable...? If no, what might the daiza look like?
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Post  Bruce Winter on Sun Dec 14, 2014 1:37 am

Thats what I was wondering. Maybe a thin flat round or irregular stone or jiita?

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Post  Guest on Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:13 pm

I have seen worse hutstones, and a regular classic japanese style daiza, will make the feeling of the image better.


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Post  Andre Beaurain on Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:23 am

I Love it!

I have seen worse huts.... hihihih hihhi hii

Yvonne I also saw the figure there, before I saw your drawing!

For me a Daiza with stairs will work.

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Post  kevin stoeveken on Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:36 pm

ditto on the daiza...

steps or just an inclined plane to "suggest" the way "in"

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Re: struggling to see it's worth

Post  dick benbow on Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:56 pm

Had a nice chat with a local stone friend about the steps versus the slope, and came away with the slope as the best way to suggest an entrance way without distracting from the stone itself.

thanks all for your input.....

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Post  Precarious on Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:21 pm

Cool thinking outside the daiza, so to speak.

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Post  dick benbow on Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:45 pm

work has begun on the daiza. When It's finished, and if I have access to the internet, I'll post a picture. Since stone is green and white thinking a reddish hued wood would make a nice compliment.

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Post  dick benbow on Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:18 am

So, couldn't wait to post this. Everything is still rough but you get the idea. A bit avantgaard, but I like it.

I just hope the poor soul returning home to his hut is sober, as his slope going up to the hut is kinda narrow Smile

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Post  dick benbow on Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:34 pm

wish I had a dollar for every time I checked to see if anyone left a comment. Could buy us both lunch Smile

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Post  Precarious on Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:40 pm

Americans with disabilities act would frown on that ramp Mad
I don't know how to make a virtual of it, but I think it would help the illusion if the ramp went all the way to the table surface. would that go against any guidelines for the art?

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Post  dick benbow on Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:13 pm

I think aestetically your proposed change would probably be better accepted then just "cutting it off". I always appreciate your interest in things i am, and willingness To share. Smile

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Post  Precarious on Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:43 pm

That is an extremely interesting stone(it's like looking at clouds, and now I see two adults and a child by the entrance where I only saw one before), and if you use it as part of a display I hope you post pictures.

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Post  dick benbow on Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:06 am

Here's a different angle and look at the finish. I think looking down on it from atop the floor of the tokonoma,
the cut off look will not be as noticeable. I like the reddish look against the green as complimentary....

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Post  Precarious on Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:05 am

Yes I agree on the color. Well done, all around!

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Post  Guest on Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:56 am

Hi Dick

I think you have come to a result, that dont let the stone look like a hut at all...maybe a kind of treefruit I dont know of, like how a beech have fruit, due to the stem that does not look like a ramp or stairs at all, and the floating apperance, by grinding off the buttomrim...please compare with the first seatphoto, here the stone was seated...I would have prefered a dark brown seatcollor, the one you find in the small chips of the roof rim, to bring stone and seat better together

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Post  dick benbow on Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:37 pm

I appreciate your honest critique and think the points you made have merit. Especially the one about making the hut look more like a fruit with the walk way looking more like a stem.
Yvonne, what would you suggest to do to the walkway to make it more believeable as one?

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Post  Guest on Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:06 pm

Hi Dick

I would make sure the walk away reached the ground, would also make it shorter....or even shorter, with small stair steps.
I dont like you grinded the rim in the buttom, this has to be solved, by making the seat stand firm on the ground again, as it was before on the first seatphoto.

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Post  kevin stoeveken on Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:22 pm

i agree with some... at this point it looks more like a stem... if that is what you now want to aim for you can go that direction

but if you want the illusion of an entry-way to a hut, the ramp should be shorter and the incline should meet the ground with no last step

or if you want to keep the length, giving it steps as opposed to a ramp would make it look less like a stem.

(i personally do not like the idea of it suggesting a fruit w/ stem)

now... do we owe you lunch ??? Wink Razz

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Post  Mark on Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:11 pm

Dick,
My thought would be to suggest the start of a path in the subtlest of ways. Suiseki is essence, when the viewer wanders in and around the stone
in their imagination. You rob that important aspect by completing a path for the viewer. To me, it is best to start the story, not complete it.



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Post  dick benbow on Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:40 pm

thanks Mark, appropriate observation. I'll have the path shortened and some other revisons made as more of a compromise then elimination.

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Post  dick benbow on Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:15 pm

Think this may be a better compromise? Thoughts

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Post  Precarious on Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:03 pm

I like that! One way to further enhance the idea of subtlety, or suggestion, that was brought up, would be to stop the ramp after the groove. I wish I was at home where I could make a virtual of that. Again, I'm no expert, I just really like the stone and what you're doing with it. Smile

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