Help ID my tree and leaf falling problem

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Help ID my tree and leaf falling problem

Post  BriPanda on Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:25 pm

Hi I got this beauty a week ago, I'm a little confused about what tree is this.
And I have leaf falling problem have no idea why. Can you help me guy's I'm a beginner :-)

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Re: Help ID my tree and leaf falling problem

Post  Thomas Urban on Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:42 am

Hi,

I think it may be a Sageretia theezans, I think leaves are too shiny and shaped different for it to be part of the Ligustrum family, but it may very well be some kind of Ligustrum.

There isn't much you can do right now except monitor carefully how you water your tree. The soil you currently have is terrible because it provides no drainage. Once spring comes around you should re-pot it into some well draining modern substrate and once the temperatures are good, stick it outside.

For now keep it someplace where it can get a decent amount of sunlight but where the temperatures don't drastically change like right next to a window.

Good luck!

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Re: Help ID my tree and leaf falling problem

Post  Colin Lewis on Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:19 pm

It looks like an olive to me. Regardless, never buy a plant unless you now exactly what species it is, otherwise you can't research its cultural requirements.

At this time of year old leaves will fall anyway, especially after a change in environment, so don't fret too much. Moisten that compacted soil, but never saturate it until you repot into a coarser, free draining mix.

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Re: Help ID my tree and leaf falling problem

Post  David Brunner on Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:50 pm

Hello BriPanda –

I think that Thomas is likely correct about your tree being Sagaretia theezans (better called Sagaretia thea – but many in bonsai still use S. theezans.)  I am certain it is not a Ligustrum nor an olive as both are in the olive family and would have leaves with no teeth on the margins and leaves which are truly opposite on the stem.  The leaves of your tree seem to be alternate or sub-opposite and with crenate (lightly-toothed) margins.

From your photo, I don’t think your tree is getting enough sun (it should have direct sun, not just light from a lamp) and it may be losing leaves from the low humidity indoors in fall and winter.  Bonsai really do much better when grown outdoors.  Your tree is subtropical and will not take much freezing weather, but if it is warm enough, I would place it outdoors.  Perhaps others from your area can provide more precise information regarding cultivating this species where you are?

David B.

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Re: Help ID my tree and leaf falling problem

Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:41 pm

Looks like a Sageretia t. and in China, this shrub is rated to zone 7.
So next year you may wish to re-acclimate it living outdoors in the UK.
Nothing coming out of China is really meant for indoor growing.
You can also take cuttings and do the experiments on them.
Best of luck.
Khaimraj

* They can handle Full Sun [ my side - West Indies ] but you have to keep them moist and well fertilised.


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