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Post  Michael Cooper on Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:51 pm

One of the members of our club sadly passed away and the trees were distributed amongst us. They had been neglected and it is thought that some may have come from warmer climates so I  rather interested to know if any on has any ideas about this one I acquired. The tree which was dead was a spindly thing about a foot high with quite a spreading structure.At its base it is growing new leaves which have a curious little feature at the bottom of the petiole,two little curly stipules? Is that any clue to identification? It may be something quite exotic or very mundane I don't know, neither did any of our members who have a lot more knowledge than me. So any suggestions are welcome.
If it is from warmer climes I would like to know before the temperature starts to go down much further and autumn takes hold.



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Post  abcd on Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:41 pm

pyrus ?

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Post  bonsaisr on Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:20 am

Doesn't match pictures of Pyrus.
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Post  augustine on Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:13 am

Chaenomeles, Japanese flowering quince.

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Post  arihato on Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:40 am

At first glance I would say Forsythia.

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Post  Michael Cooper on Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:22 am

Forsythia came to my mind at first but Forsythia does not have those curly little stipules and according to my book F.leavves should be opposite each other whereas these are not. Thanks for helping everyone

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Post  Laughing Buddha on Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:28 am

Maybe Chinese Quince,Pseudocydonia sinensis.
Or possibly an Escallonia ?.

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Post  GašperG on Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:25 pm

Michael, here are some quick photos of a pear tree from my garden. I am with abcd on this one.

Leafs have sarrated edges and on many young branches you can see this tiny leafs above the sleeping buds on the stem of the main leaf.



A photo of fruit to prove Very Happy



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Post  David Brunner on Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:06 pm

Hello Micheal – I too think it is a pear, it looks like Pyrus pyrifolia. The young or juvenile leaves of many trees have much more heavily serrated margins that leaves on mature branches.

I don’t think it is quince as their stipules are fairly large and rounded, not small and needle-shaped like your tree.

I’m sorry about the passing of your club member, and good luck with the tree. Time will reveal its identity with much greater certainty.

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Post  JimLewis on Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:54 pm

P. pyrafolia make pretty good bonsai, too. Especially in the fall.


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Post  Michael Cooper on Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:33 pm

Thanks for all your suggestions folks,just looking forward to see what it might be one day.Having been told that many of his trees came from hotter climates I shall perhaps take it in under shelter when the nights get colder.

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Post  Michael Cooper on Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:19 pm

Michael Cooper wrote:One of the members of our club sadly passed away and the trees were distributed amongst us. They had been neglected and it is thought that some may have come from warmer climates so I  rather interested to know if any on has any ideas about this one I acquired. The tree which was dead was a spindly thing about a foot high with quite a spreading structure.At its base it is growing new leaves which have a curious little feature at the bottom of the petiole,two little curly stipules? Is that any clue to identification? It may be something quite exotic or very mundane I don't know, neither did any of our members who have a lot more knowledge than me. So any suggestions are welcome.
If it is from warmer climes I would like to know before the temperature starts to go down much further and autumn takes hold.



New growth this year might help make it easier



I have just let it grow with only a little trimming, now about a foot high,left it iust to see what it might be.It has very sharp thorns now.
Any idea anyone?

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Post  MKBonsai on Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:40 pm

Quite a few pear varieties and their rootstocks also have thorns........

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Post  fiona on Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:50 pm

Pseudocydonia? Osmanthus?

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Post  bonsaisr on Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:03 pm

It does not look like a tropical. To be safe, I would let it have a cool rest just above freezing for the winter. Then next year feed it heavily and let it grow wild until it blooms. Don't you have some sort of agricultural extension service or a nearby university that can identify it?
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Post  fiona on Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:34 pm

Pittosporum?

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Post  Michael Cooper on Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:53 am

Thanks folks that is food for thought. Probably have to wait till it blooms one day, mind you one of the suggestions means that will be another five years!

Its main features I think to bear in mind are the finely serrated leave and now sharp the thorns

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Post  M. Frary on Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:15 pm

Foemina.

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