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Post  moyogijohn on Fri May 30, 2014 10:13 pm

I found a small one of these plants.. now does any one have one as bonsai ?? I know grabbing at straws now !! leaves are really small and i think i see a pretty good trunk line.. thanks for your in put... take care john

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Post  Auballagh on Sat May 31, 2014 12:52 am

Well Hello Again John!
The 'Helleri' is a cultivar variant of Ilex crenata.  I currently have just one of these trees left, and have killed four of them through various causes over the years.  This winter was a rough one, and I lost my second to last one by not keeping it cool and dormant enough during one of those weird week-long warming phases we experienced this year.  A landscape collected beauty of 50 to 60 years - this was a nice one I'd had for over 4 years.  Anyway, I guess the tree thought that spring had finally sprung or something, and it started getting active and budding out everywhere.  Then, when temps crashed backed down again, it shocked out and never recovered....  Crying or Very sad 
I have found that they are quite finicky trees in pot culture.  Mine have all proven to be sensitive to over-pruning and very suspect in winter hardiness.
I've got one pretty decent Ilex crenata left, and have decided that if it eventually, also checks out on me?  That particular Holly type species billet in my Bonsai collection will NOT be getting filled again!
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The 2 Ilex vomitoria, Yaupon Hollies I have however seem immune from the sorts of things that would give  I. crenata 'The Vapors' or something.  With attributes like small leaves, gnarly looking trunks and really hard to kill?  Give me a Yaupon Holly to keep and work as Bonsai material any day over the Helleri.  Smile

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helleri holly

Post  moyogijohn on Sat May 31, 2014 3:05 am

Auballagh,, thank you for your post.. i am sorry you lost a tree that old or any thing else really. i thought this may be a hard one but it is small plant.. what about root work ?? anyway i will give it a shot for 4.00 ..thanks john

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Post  Auballagh on Sat May 31, 2014 3:18 am

Hah.  Don't let the little bugger fool you John with it's size!  I have personally seen absolutely NO DIFFERENCE in vigor or hardiness for this species in very young trees - or very old ones.  For one reason or another, I've found ways to kill them ALL.  Embarassed 

But, I will say that now is probably the absolute best time of the year to re-pot these fussy things.  I would recommend just going very easy on pruning this year, while it recovers from your root work.  Not surprisingly, it seems that this species is an absolute powerhouse as Bonsai when grown in very mild or even sub-tropical zones.  And, Ilex crenata does fairly well once established as landscape material in colder growing zones.  Unfortunately, this Holly species seems to have almost no tolerance for a zone 7 or below winter climate when kept in a pot, however.   Mad

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Post  moyogijohn on Sat May 31, 2014 12:52 pm

Auballagh,, Thanks again for your post.. I am zone 6 so I am colder than you.. That said this little shurb in a pot does not sound very good !! The root system was so in tight i had to cut the pot off !! live and learn .. Thanks john

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