Pinus Elliotii - first wiring
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Xavier de Lapeyre
JimLewis
mikebonsai
dorothy7774
Vance Wood
Fox CWB
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Re: Pinus Elliotii - first wiring
I think you did a very nice job on wiring the tree. I wish you had given a few more details about the tree.
Vance Wood- Member
Re: Pinus Elliotii - first wiring
Styling is good. You trimmed the needles very short. You also pulled needles before cutting them? Let us know how the tree is doing in about 6 weeks and if it is shooting new buds. Thanks!
Best,
Dorothy
Best,
Dorothy
dorothy7774- Member
Re: Pinus Elliotii - first wiring
Just a noobie question; Won't the needles that are cut die back? From what I can see all the needles were cut. I'm confused.
mikebonsai- Member
Re: Pinus Elliotii - first wiring
The cut tips sometimes/frequently turn brown, which is why if you plnt to show a tree with too-long needles they should be cut right before the show. But the needles shouldn't die.
JimLewis- Member
Re: Pinus Elliotii - first wiring
Oh, okay. Does this apply to other pines such as Sylvestris and Mugo as well?
mikebonsai- Member
Re: Pinus Elliotii - first wiring
Nicely done!
Its good to see other bonsaika using this species in bonsai.
Dorothy stay the master of elliottii in my book!
Cheers
Its good to see other bonsaika using this species in bonsai.
Dorothy stay the master of elliottii in my book!
Cheers
Xavier de Lapeyre- Member
Re: Pinus Elliotii - first wiring
Hi all,
thanks for the comments and replies.
I cut the needles short in order to keep the styling balanced, as well, I considered the risk to do a good job, as this kind of pine has long needles.
The tree is responding very well since the wiring, I will post an updated picture.
thanks for the comments and replies.
I cut the needles short in order to keep the styling balanced, as well, I considered the risk to do a good job, as this kind of pine has long needles.
The tree is responding very well since the wiring, I will post an updated picture.
Fox CWB- Member
Re: Pinus Elliotii - first wiring
I'm curious why you decided to style it the way you did? The trunk is beautiful, and you've assembled the foliage into a lovely canopy shape, but in doing so, you've sent all the branches in the exact opposite direction of the trunk. So the tree goes strong left (tree's right) then makes a complete 180 and "poof" -- canopy. Again, the overall silhouette is really lovely, but all those abrupt bends..... I"m curious why you opted for a canopy that was more picturesque rather than more horticulturally consistent. The trunk is so dynamic, I'm curious why you didn't continue that energy flow with the foliage.
bottasegreta- Member
Re: Pinus Elliotii - first wiring
Maybe his shelf isn't long enough for it that way.
IMHO I think you answered your own question in your statement that he opted for something that was more "picturesque". I feel this way it has balance that would be overstretched had the foliage been as you suggest. Perhaps with a shorter trunk, your suggestion would have been a possibility, but my eye can't see it with this one.
IMHO I think you answered your own question in your statement that he opted for something that was more "picturesque". I feel this way it has balance that would be overstretched had the foliage been as you suggest. Perhaps with a shorter trunk, your suggestion would have been a possibility, but my eye can't see it with this one.
fiona- Member
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mikebonsai wrote:Oh, okay. Does this apply to other pines such as Sylvestris and Mugo as well?
If you are forced into cutting the needles on Scots or Mugo you are doing something wrong or your tree has only been in training for one year.
Vance Wood- Member
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Hehe, I was just asking, I have no intention of doing so.
mikebonsai- Member
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mikebonsai wrote:Hehe, I was just asking, I have no intention of doing so.
I understand, but the question begged the response. Rather than leaving people who do not know, hanging about the issue, I addressed the question. You are looking to expand your knowledge and I was looking to share my knowledge.
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Vance Wood- Member
Re: Pinus Elliotii - first wiring
I understand, but I'm only trying to absorb knowledge, that's all.
mikebonsai- Member
Re: Pinus Elliotii - first wiring
Vance Wood wrote:mikebonsai wrote:Oh, okay. Does this apply to other pines such as Sylvestris and Mugo as well?
If you are forced into cutting the needles on Scots or Mugo you are doing something wrong or your tree has only been in training for one year.
Although needle cutting is not uncommon in Japan.
http://bonsai.shikoku-np.co.jp/en/shugi/2009/02/post-7.html
Tona
Tona- Member
Re: Pinus Elliotii - first wiring
Wow very nice!
Mine are pulling new growth too, but have been a bit taken by other stuffs lately.
Will need to try to find some time to have a better look at them
Mine are pulling new growth too, but have been a bit taken by other stuffs lately.
Will need to try to find some time to have a better look at them
Xavier de Lapeyre- Member
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