Growing from seed /cutting - images - 17 years

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Post  Xavier de Lapeyre on Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:22 pm

Yeps agreed,
I still would direct a complete beginner to start with a nursery stock or mallsai.

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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:28 pm

Xavier, Vance,

years ago on WetCanvas, a lady who has a degree in Adult educating, gave us one very good piece of advice.

Adults like to feel they are in charge.

When anything threatens that feeling of being in charge, the learning drops to zero. This is why folk who can do anything they touch, have such open minds and often little ego, as regards new information or information unfamiliar to them.
At the Studio in Florence, the ones who needed to be in charge, got left behind.

So now, I provide hints, examples and a working technique.
It is up to the reader.

I guess seedlings are for more experienced growers - Twisted Evil  Shocked chuckle
Laters.
Enjoy the weekend.
Khaimraj

* Vance agreed, we can give trees shapes, but true age ..................................... and beauty that comes with age.............

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Post  Guest on Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:32 pm




...for now.

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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:35 pm

Xavier,

very tight curves as you illustrate, will thicken into ..................

I have a seagrape that naturally has curves, but if I thicken the plant - think river, curves and ox-bow lake.
You need to show the next stages, interesting article though.
Later.
Khaimraj

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Post  Xavier de Lapeyre on Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:45 pm

Thanks
Will keep an eye for it.

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Post  Vance Wood on Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:50 pm

We used to call it taking one's dollies and going home.

Again growing from seed is not wrong, I used to do it all the time. But a piece of crapola nursery plant that one can turn into a piece of crapola imitation of a bonsai tree is far better to work on than a seed and a dream of a future. A future that depends on decades of things happening according to how you think they are going to happen, or imagine, how they will happen and then not have a clue of what to do when they don't, or have a clue what to do, when they do, oddly enough.


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Post  Xavier de Lapeyre on Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:51 pm

Khaimraj,
Could you go into more details on that part
I have a seagrape that naturally has curves, but if I thicken the plant - think river, curves and ox-bow lake.

The river curves I get it, but the ox-bow lake I don't grasp its relation with the bonsai context.

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Post  Khaimraj Seepersad on Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:15 pm

Xavier,

draw a tight curve, and then simulate thickening that comes with time.

You may find that you get better results with the smaller fruit nana, your pomegranate seedling looks like the granatum?

If you can get the minima, you will get even better results, multi branching, and very fine branchlets, likes full sun as well.
Plus it builds a nice corky type bark.

The normal Punica g. if you look closely and past the twisted trunk of the Japanese examples, is much like how the Chinese handle the ficus, great attention to roots and leaves to say it is alive.

The Punica granatum nana -minima - has trunk quality, fine branchlets and good surface roots.

Oh and a lot of this seedling thingee is cultivar, cultivar, cultivar.

Our early variety of casuarina, is nothing compared to what is available presently.
The early one is untidy, limp, and unpleasant to look at, the new one is upright and finely ordered.
Laters.
Khaimraj


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Post  JohnPattett on Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:36 am

This article contains useful content about growing seeds.
Nice Effort.

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